If I had found out my wife (to whom I’ve been married for over 30 years now) was screwing another guy two weeks before our wedding, there is literally nothing in the world short of threat of deadly force that could have gotten me to marry her. Seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
I’m sorry you went through this. Thank you so much for sharing. I want so much to be married, but I’ve worried that I have kept my standards too high. I always believe that everyone else who is married is happy and all of us single people are in pain. But sometimes things are not what they look like. I really appreciate you opening up and I am sorry someone commented to make you feel bad for sharing your story. This was brave and helpful. ♥️
At one time I felt I was missing out on wedded bliss, but not now at age 83, i see singleness as a gift. I have written a story about my struggle which I will post one day soon.
I can definitely attest that not every married person is happy (all the time). There’s pros and cons in both marriage and non- marriage. My husband and I both, regularly, miss being single. Marriage has been so much harder than we thought. But, also, we continue to grow and evolve. We keep trying.
Thank you for sharing this with me, Lydia 🙂 I was having a sad day today, so having a reminder that I should endeavor to find the good in my singleness is very helpful.
Greyson, never-mind any thoughtless self-centered comments from those who cannot appreciate the vulnerability of sharing your situation. I was married for 30+ years and, although for different reasons, had similar thoughts as I approached the altar on my wedding day. Life is all at once hard and wonderful, if you are lucky enough to learn from all of its experiences. I have and this chapter of my life is better for it.
Hey Anne. Thanks for the kind words. But no worries, I’ve been around the writing block a while. After receiving death threats from people following a Medium article about personal stuff, I’m pretty familiar with how some will spout off less than desirable comments.
People are awful, and it's often the worst of them who are the loudest, but for every one of them there are at least a few quiet admirers of your vulnerability. It's not easy to be vulnerable on the internet, but it helps pave the path for the rest of us to be more open.
Same, Anne. I cried all night before the wedding, knowing it was a mistake, but not having the guts to say so. We lasted 35 years, but they weren’t always happy ones.
Greyson, your openness is relatable. Someone jumping down your throat for being vulnerable isn’t acceptable, and I apologize for him and all those who liked his comment.
I remember my BIL asking me for marital advice when he was going to marry my sister. Sacrifice was the first word that came to my mind as you must be willing to give up certain parts of yourself in order to have a successful long term marriage. People might argue with me but marriage and parenting requires maturity along with sacrifice you can no longer put yourself ahead of others and must determine how to lead a family. I had a bad role model as my father cheated and was an alcoholic who died at 61, great dad horrible husband. I am doing my best to be a good husband, father, son , brother that can be relied upon like a trustworthy person willing to sacrifice for the greater good of the family.
Bless you,and thanks....it's a story that no man wishes to write....I share this boat with you,currently.It has pushed me closer to the Lord,and her further away...there are some days where the chasm is a crack,others where you cannot see the other side.....she laughs and scoffs at me for NOT believing the same BS everybody else does....for me being me essentially.....I wonder why she married me....she would wonder the same thing......if she CARED!....LOL
If you at a Catholic; I hope you are able to speak with a solid priest. I can imagine that it felt like a public event for which you would have a public humiliation, so you felt trapped. Looking back you must think you should have stopped before you had gotten that far. I don’t believe in divorce, and you did have solid evidence to stop the marriage. That being said, turn to God, ask for the strength needed to know what to do.
God is most definitely in my life though not a Catholic.You are right,should have put a stop a long time ago...haven't walked away because of Him,and in spite of her?.....no,not spite....though one can walk away mentally,I refuse to walk away ....I made an oath,I have quit too many times in my life and refuse to do so now,as difficult as it can be at times ....God has graced me with an ability to be self-aware and that's something one can work with,instead of blaming...if I said I haven't learned a GREAT DEAL from all of this,that would be a lie......I have been blessed while stressed!......
Thank you so much for your response,I have been amazed at how many I have got from this one comment...seems to have long legs....if people find solace and comradery in those few words...I have been truly blessed AGAIN!....
How is it going with her so far? I recommend making contingency plans, in case she drops the hammer, accuses you of domestic violence, kicks you out of the house without due process of law, etc. I recommend getting with a men's advocacy organization such as National Coalition for Men (NCFM.org). They can help. Good luck.
What a vulnerable thing to write about. It’s incredibly generous of you. And who knows, maybe this helps other people to have the courage to face the truth. But I can only imagine the pressure one feels to go through with such a thing because as you so clearly state, everyone came from far and near to celebrate you.
I understand … you *sort of* knew .. but no one knows 100% for sure. So with the financial and social inconvenience of canceling, you threw in on the side of, “Well maybe I’ll take the longshot chance”.
What clown shit is this? So I cannot have a opinion about Hitler because I haven't lived his life? The author is brave enough to share his own life experience. The commenter might be wrong, might be right, but I don't see anything wrong with him sharing his opinion about the issue.
Whats wrong was this line "Seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself."
There was no reason for this attack. This kind of opinion is the kind that only speaks to the commenter as a flag that they should get to therapy (and I mean that). We are not entitled to make abusive comments on someone's random vulnerable post either because Hitler existed or just because it struck some sort of chord, potentially a feeling of fear.
There are definitely spaces for uncomfortable comments that some might take as personal attacks. There really was no justification for it here.
What made you so reflexively defensive that you thought the author was blaming anyone - himself or otherwise? We all have feelings that run quite a range when we read something, but you need to have some better discretion because your reply verges on shameful.
Thanks for being so rude. My God, how do the rest of survive without your judgmental opinion? I'm shocked - SHOCKED, I tell you! - that the entire world manages to move on its axis without your permission!
You had a chance to show compassion. Or at least shut the fuck up. Instead, you chose to be a complete ass. If this is how you really are in real life, and not just some wimpy dickhead hiding behind your screen, I hope your wife managed to find actual love in the arms of someone else while insuring your pathetic self for millions.
He is sharing his own opinion, not a fact. There is no right or wrong to a opinion. I don't see why he can't share his opinion. I don't understand why there is a need to gatekeep. Going by your logic, then we just become a black mirror episode/world where everything can only be positive. Lmao.
Oh good Lord, being an adult in society should mean you understand where and when to say certain things. You can have an opinion, but if it’s bad and/or hurtful and you share it, you should expect to be called out.
Yes. It might be hard to understand. As a woman who struggled a lot with a negative self view and who experienced some abusive relationships, I can see myself going through with a wedding in such circumstances. It’s really not hard for me to picture myself in that situation. Fortunately, I have been married for nearly 36 years to a kind, devoted man. Not that we haven’t had our problems. But my judgment was shit back in the day. I feel like I just got exceedingly lucky
It is so easy to judge something you have never lived. We are layered human with contradictions and I think there is nothing more genuine than being able to open up on that. It is beautiful to be able to transform your pain into something written. Not everyone has that talent nor sensibility and it shows.
What a terribly selfish comment you somehow felt justified to make to a man who made himself so vulnerable by sharing his painful story. No wonder it’s so hard for men to authentically speak.
I can understand the pressure of being ypung and family spending a lot of money to come to a wedding. I get why you felt you had to go through with it.
Harsh, even though true. The pressure builds. The planning, the expectations of others, the expense. One gets carried along in, what seems to be, an irresistible tide. In this instance a rip ride OP couldn't find an escape from.
My wedding day feelings were the same, but for different reasons. I was sobbing uncontrollably down the aisle. Everyone thought I must be overwhelmed by happiness. I wish I had been stronger. When people say, “I would never have done that,” shaming you, my answer is, “How do you know you wouldn’t have done that?” We are all capable of doing things out of alignment with who we truly are or what we say we value. It’s a matter of conditions at that moment in one’s life, inexperience, pressure and vulnerability.
oof, revealing the kind of guy you are, coming on to this very self introspective and vulnerable post with "Seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself."
The internet has a fascinating way of getting people to reveal pieces of who they truly are. The projection of who you are (and not I don't mean regarding what you would choose) is thick and heavy.
I can understand the inertia and the feeling that it’s impossible to change course. This story should be read by every young person as a warning so they can be prepared to make good decisions when they’re hard.
How about that marriage was ordained by God it is a biblical thing. There was a time where people understood the marriage vows. Don’t get married, if you have doubts, because when you make that commitment, it is in front of God it is it to God it is before witnesses for better, or worse till death. That means as worse as it gets. Means when you make that commitment, you don’t break it because people should not break their word, regardless especially if it’s something like a marriage where it is a godly covenant. Peoples word should be worth every letter till death. Do you part that means till death you stay married even if you’re miserable and the marriage sucks it’s tough luck. The reason you’re getting married is to have children so they can grow up and understand how to keep their word how marriage is about more than just being happy. In fact, it doesn’t matter if you’re happy in your marriage, it matters that you keep the marriage and keep the vows. It’s actually more important to not break the marriage then it is about one’s happiness, because happiness ends anyway when people die. Life is fleeting. The only reason we had communities where everybody owned homes and property, and Kids were healthy and thriving. Not learning about sex in school not learning that we came from apes and social studies which came from dictators public school from Washington DC, which came from the Nazis fashion school systems…. All comes from not having biblical principles just like legal divorce in 1969… what an insane idea to have divorce lawyers and also the synagogues in church is going along with divorce. People are so concerned with themselves and their own happiness. It is self-centered narcissism on a magnitude so bad that you can see the hell on earth, that these lack of principles has caused. If you get married, you stay married, and you shut up about your own life and your own happiness and you work it out best you can. Or don’t get married. But when people say, I swear under God, I will stay married to you till death do we part for better or worse, you keep your word. How’s that for a reality. If things are bad, you don’t complain. How’s that for another reality stop complaining and stop thinking about yourself that’s the advice I gift to the world. And if you want to know the cause of most peoples, depression and anxiety, it is a perpetual thinking of oneself. The emotional support animal will do nothing, except for fill the body with all kinds of bacteria and airborne fecal matter which because of the influx of dogs from China and tens of millions of people now have pets in their house pregnant women breathing in airborne feces and urine all day kissing the dog, holding it in their arms, kissing the cat breathing in the litter box… of course that couldn’t be the cause of all the cancer is in 10 year olds, an explosion in down syndrome… of course not pets are healthy, says MSNBC and the medical community and Harvard studies which get billions from government subsidies. I could go on and on. But people who are concerned about their own, lives, their own happiness… that’s why we have kids that aren’t going to own any property there going to be on welfare because they’re going to be on medication with fake diagnosis is like bipolar disorder…. The removal of the Bible from the schools in the 60s is the cause of all this nonsense and insanity and self-centeredness. We need to put that book back into the kindergarten and every other school and start re-indoctrinating people and give them a modern history lesson on how the Democratic Party turned a Christian Judea nation into a socialist country full of sick kids who are now preaching to Congress that they demand to be called a different gender and have fake pronoun names and want to dress and act to show off their personal feelings… no regard for anyone else’s lives no regard for the Christians or the Jews or Israel, or the United States as a nation which by the way we can have one without the other… the founding fathers wrote extensively about Jesus Christ and why they used the Bible to form our documents… marriage comes from that… the original American marriage is what formed property ownership and communities with church is on the corner that everybody revered.. he caused prosperity, longevity, children’s health… the greatest wealth in the world, creating a country that became a super power in less than 200 years. God is at the core of everything, the Bible, the Old Testament and the new…. We need to get back to that kind of mindset, and we won’t be hearing about people concerned with their own happiness in their marriage…. No wonder we have men walking around with dogs in their arms instead of children nurturing animals instead of kids. Wake up America.
Ok, I agree with you Bud. That’s why young people need practice at making decisions before they are 25 years old. Decide to buy a car. Take a job. Dump a girlfriend. Those are all reversible decisions and mistakes are ok. Some young people are so sheltered that getting married is the first big decision of their lives and they freeze up like this poor guy
There was a time where it was a grave sin to have sex before marriage…. That’s why the government took the Bible out of the schools so they can create sexual generations that thought nothing about having girlfriends for years sleeping together and not having commitment it destroyed lives then when you had planned parenthood to take care of the pregnancies… won’t even get into with that dude to our girlfriends and also ask the guys…. We were baby boomers and man from the 70s to 90s…. The things we were doing led all the stuff you see today….. I’ve sense given myself to God and I am an advocate for biblical principles going back under years went over 90% of the country had the fear of God, and people like my parents got married before they had sex and that’s why they ended up with mansions at the beach, thriving families, you name it property ownership…. People cared more about others. My father cared more about us and my mom my mom cared more about my father and us more than her self self came last…. Others came first God came first that’s where it’s at.
Your parents generation ended up with mansions on the beach and thriving families because WWII forced the US to become a manufacturing powerhouse. Everything was still dirt cheap in this country but everyone had a good job and was able to afford that everything.
Your generation was able to take full advantage of the same economy without having to work for it at all. It wasn't the sex that ruined things. People have been having sex outside of marriage since the beginning of time. It's just more out in the open now. Laziness and selfishness from your generation is what brought us where we are today.
You can’t have successful people because of manufacturing boom, the people have to be in line with hard work, with marriage with owning property with biblical principles, these things are what caused our nation to even be able to go to war and support the war effort. You have to be blind, not to see the difference between the World War II veterans and what they were learning in school almost 96%. Plus. Believed in God. That’s why they won the war and we’re so tenacious and willing to sacrifice their lives and also way more healthier per capita., there was like less than 2% divorce in those families, and my generation was absolutely brutally destroyed from a school system that brought in sexualized teachers teaching us about sex, teaching us social studies, which was the socioeconomic policies of Soviet, Russia, and Nazi Germany minus the racism and bigotry, which was actually going on with fake riot because the government was burning down cities full of black wealthy people from 63 and the 70s… to think that we were forced to go into some kind of economic boom because of the war and that’s what gave my parents homeownership, is absurd. We only had the boom because almost the entire country was in line with biblical principles. They believed to wait to have sex before marriage. There was no such thing as planned parenthood. They passed legal divorce in 1969. Over 30% of the country got divorced. Within 10 years every kid was partying in those houses where there was no father. Girls were having sex in their bedrooms with their boyfriends because only the mother was home. There was no father in the house like me and my girlfriend and millions of other kids doing the same thing. When they got pregnant, we took them to Planned Parenthood. The generation was completely different in thinking behavior. And the church was at the corner of every community. Even the Jewish community, the synagogue, we said, the Pledge of Allegiance in the school to the biblical principles of the New Testament Jesus Christ in God we trust because it’s how our constitution, Bill of Rights and declaration of independence was framed. Everybody aligned with those principles until my generation., until the school system got rid of the parent teachers association, they removed the Bible in 63…. The reason my parents were successful is because of biblical principles in their lives like the rest of the homeowners in the country they believed in marriage between man and woman they didn’t believe in abortion they didn’t believe in sex before marriage. They thought that would hurt the children. And they were successful homeowners…. They would’ve been successful no matter if there was a war or not. The industrial revolution in the term of the century created so much wealth the building of the car, the first rubber tire, innovation, excellence competition all came from the church. There was no regulation to strangle businesses that came with the removal of the Bible with the EPA with fake Earth Day and climate science to get rid of the wealth at the same time, they sexualized students in school and offered us a way to abort our babies and that’s just the surface… and I could get into the economic boom of that manufacturing era in the 40s, in great detail. But that certainly isn’t the cause., because if they did that today, you have a bunch of kids that are obese sick mentally ill school shooters sexualized they don’t want to fight they don’t want to work. They don’t care about God they don’t believe in God. They talk about social constructs and being transgender…… your assessment is way off
You don’t believe. So you look at those things like it just so happens to be. There was a Church on every corner. Every two blocks had a church in our entire community and the next one over and the next one over almost all the way to New York City besides a couple poor areas… the black community across the lake was the most wealthiest in the world in less than 100 years… there was churches on every other block. The divorce rate was less than 2%. There was zero divorce in that city… you couldn’t find a single parent in 1969…. Divorce was unheard of in my community…. Nobody was having sex outside their marriage in my family. My mother and father did not…. When we heard of somebody that cheated on their wife and they got divorced the first time anybody ever heard of that was in the 70s… divorce wasn’t even legal until 1969…. Yes there’s people that cheat and lie…. They will pay the price for that. But whatever the United States did to become a super power it’s because God allowed it…. There were plenty of other nations that one wars., it had the same kind of money, in fact, we were in debt in the 1800s we had to rely on other countries that had way more money than us, more people, more power… so how is it we became that’s super power in less than 200 years? Your explanation is extremely superficial…. And the fact a lot of us we’re Blessed not having to work so hard it’s because everybody was worshiping God our parents were worshiping God… they had that fear… I never met anybody when I was a little kid that didn’t have some sort of belief… but by the time I was 13…. 15…. With the entire government against the church against the Bible, the public school was teaching, sex, education and evolution that we came from apes…. They relaxed all the drug laws they opened, rehabs for kids, and they started diagnosing everybody with illnesses….. you’re missing so many things that they did, including bureaucratic agencies that were designed to destroy the black communities, pin one race against the other… the government caused the racial riots… they created them…. They burned down Asbury park. New Jersey in 1970….. they burned Newark New Jersey in 1963.. I can get into so many details about who was involved… and he was involved with rebuilding Asbury park including some of my best friends and Johnny Cash and Billy Graham… until the FBI came after them… bankrupted my friends family in the 90s and warren Buffett Chris Christie’s family and others turned Asbury park into a sexual community…. Johnny Cash, Billy Graham and Henry Vaccaro sr we’re going to bring back those black communities bring back the churches to Asbury park… Johnny Cash gave his life to Jesus Christ before he died. He was best friends with these people, Mr. vaccaro… even wrote a book called Johnny Cash is my friend…. I also believe that the divorce in some of these families was why the FBI and other horrible things came against a lot of families and a lot of families lost wealth… the prosperity we saw in the 40s and 50s… started being taken away, because people started moving away from God…. Yes, there’s been prostitution for thousands of years…. But the people that believed in God that repented from sin…. Had places of worship, and also worshiped in their home, raised their kids to have that fear of God that God is real…. There is no doubt that God blessed these communities…. He also allowed Israel to become the most powerful state in that region in less than 100 years, which was also prophesied about….. and then prophecy came true. Israel will also be attacked again because they have moved away from God and they don’t believe in Jesus…. They have sexual parades just like the United States… and you can see the results, sexualization of children, suicide mass murders… even natural disasters, are part of the sin of man…. You don’t have to believe it…. But I always tell people if I’m wrong? I just gave up a lot of things that I believe are no good and I love somebody that isn’t there.? that’s not so bad if I’m wrong. But if you’re wrong and you don’t believe that, Jesus is God and you don’t get in line…. Imagine that horrific mistake. Imagine if you’re wrong what an absolutely horrific gamble that would be? Or you would be taken down to a horrible place when you pop out of your body… when the body dies something pops out and that is the person you actually are. I experienced this firsthand in 1998. I saw what happens when we die. It is horrific., and there is a place that we can get taken up to… I can share more… I have audio on it on my Instagram and also Jessica Reed Kraus has been publishing some of my stuff on her platform. She is somebody that God sent after I asked him to send someone with a platform to put my voice on it. She showed up 24 hours later and recorded me at UCLA last spring. She wrote about this also in her top 20 things of the year, you can read that on her Substack here houseinhabit it says meet bud seigel I am number six on her list….. God uses all kinds of people… even people who don’t believe because we all have time and some people are coming to him and some people won’t…. I can definitely say most people are not going to make it and they are going to be stuck in this horrific place after they die. Again, if you’re wrong and you don’t believe that is a foolish and crazy gamble. But if I’m wrong for believing.? How could that be bad at all? I just don’t behave like I used to. I don’t speak like I used to and my focus is on something else. Other than myself that’s for sure it’s on God it’s on other people…. And then I’m last on that list…. My pleasure means nothing to me because I know what lies ahead…. And that in itself gives me more pleasure than I’ve ever had in my life and I used to have a lot of it like I lived the life most men dream of living for decades I’ve had it all…. I know now that it was nothing. I had zero…. What I have today is eternal. I’m telling you I saw this by self I can give you more details but I am exhausted and I’m going to have some coffee and go relax for a while.
There was no divorce back then because societal norms, and your church, said that women should simply accept abuse, whether it be physical, mental, emotional. As you said yourself, divorce wasn't even legal. Men still slept around, and their wives had to accept that too. It was all swept under rugs and behind closed doors. Just as the child abuse which ran rampant in the Catholic Church (and likely others) was.
TLDR, Bud. But it helped me appreciate why youth don’t want to listen to us older folks. Obviously doing most/many relationship things unwisely before deciding to enter a marriage relationship doesn’t bode well for the marriage.
Bud, oh wow. What makes you think all this misanthropic garbage you're dumping here is a gift to the world?
I grew up in exactly the kind of toxic environment you describe here. Well, it wasn't quite that bad, it was "only" Catholic, but it was bad enough. An environment that declared all joy to be a sin, that turned everything Jesus Christ would have said - had he really existed - into the opposite. What distinguishes radical religious extremists like you from radical Islamists? This kind of worldview has brought so much suffering to humanity. It is a root of all evil that is obviously doomed to failure if it is eradicated. It is the programming error left by our creators so that the reset can always restart the simulation with these parameters.
Face it: your God does not exist. He's in your head to keep people like you from understanding what's going on. That we are all just part of a simulation that starts over and over again to see what form of religious perversion it will produce this time. Our prophet Nick Bostrom, the one true prophet, can open our eyes, including your brother. I pray for you that you will be delivered from your childish faith that obscures everything and taste the fruit of knowledge. You are digital. We all are. And the best thing we can do is to live anyway and stop stealing the happiness of others. Amen.
So sorry you had such a bad Catholic experience I can’t help but wonder it would have been sane no matter what religion you were raised in. Some parents are religious zealots no matter the religion.
I would also love to hear what you base your knowledge on your faith or this prophet… what is it found it on? And that we are all digital? The only thing that made sense is what you got from the Catholic Church, which I would say is correct…. But I base my knowledge not only in thousands of prophecies, 40 authors 66 books, but besides all that the historical scientific obvious truth of this world and the people and the nations and what has happened to everybody it is all written already…. But it is all beast to me on what I saw firsthand. I died, and I popped out of my body and I was more lives than then. I am now. The only thing that even comes close to describing what happened to me is in those Bibles…. And the problem with people is their stupidity and ignorance, and not studying everything that is out there and also putting the lens on history….. look at the nations that perished the people that suffer … and the Nation of Islam that got nowhere ever so there is no comparison to what I believe and people that are Muslim. It is the polar opposite….. but I could get into the weeds of just scientific and historical facts and also the symbiotic relationships between plants animals, the Earth, the planets, the sun… a lot of things are in those books that are absolute scientific and historical. They have nothing to do with religion. But it’s all you’re giving me is what you feel is true without any foundation absolutely nothing. A word salad I would say with nothing to back it up. Not to mention you use the word amen which is Hebrew for truth., and if you use our calendar date 2025 like the whole world, does that also comes from the Bible the year of our lord 2025 they are not talking about some other prophet, or anybody else, but Jesus Christ the most powerful dollar on earth, has a Christian on the front George Washington, who wrote extensively about Jesus Christ the most exotic names on earth in music like Bob Marley and Johnny Cash gave their lives to Jesus Christ, Steve, McQueen, same thing… ben Franklin is on the hundred… it says his name will be known or through those books even the Old Testament that points to Jesus Christ all over the place, including Isaiah 700 years before Jesus was born…. There have been so many people trying to prove books wrong that after their intense research for years, every one of them gave their lives to Jesus because they said it was almost impossible not to believe…. And people who truly believe in Jesus Christ are not religious people they are loving, and they believe in getting rid of the sin whether it’s speech, foul language, judgment of others, giving away money instead of hoarding it not being greedy, not having sex outside of marriage, not being sensual, not flirting, not fantasizing, not making any kids stumble with any kind of drink or smoking that would harm them…. It is getting rid of everything that is wrong and evil in the mind and body in this world, so that that Crystaline tornado opens up and takes us back to where we were created…. And if anyone thinks this is a true, and they take the gamble to go any other way….. that would be a huge mistake because it is a horrific place that demons take that thing down that pops out if that tube does not open up… I’ve never been religious. I was in the synagogue…. He served me nothing. The Catholic Church did nothing for anybody I know, except for some of my friends, who were abused by priests and going into confession booth, and things like that, which are against the god of Judea and Jesus Christ…. And you will see the prophecy fill out in Israel, because they are sinning against God and they will be attacked again and then they will cry out to Jesus all the Jews and all the people in the world, including the Muslims and the Catholics they were all turned to Jesus Christ because he is real, and I saw him in the clouds with a twin, which definitely is his father, the two of them….. I saw this and there’s no way I would ever take the risk of going against what I saw with my own eyes especially since I read it years later in the scripture….. the things you’re saying are of this world they are of man some profit guy? There is hardly a profit in this world today, and it says there will be none after the profits that already prophesies except there are prophetesses who can have visions with certain people, but they cannot prophesies about an entire religion or an entire sector of people, or they will be false prophets, and it says beware of those people. Especially since the word of Jesus Christ is mostly about warning of hell and get rid of sin…. That is not getting rid of pleasure. There is so much pleasure in this world we are enjoying, and that is not sinful. Nobody ever told me, including god, or gods word that I should not enjoy all kinds of things as almost everything is given to us by God that is created. Enjoying sex outside of the marriage is devastating. Look at our communities today from the 70s everybody was having sex without being married and look what happened. The proof is so obvious only a fool would not believe. And I pray everybody get in line because it cannot hurt and it will profit. Pun intended.
Thanks for being so open and passionate with your thoughts. I want to take a minute to respond to a few key points you made.
First off, let’s talk about the word “radical.” It means “from the root,” and I think you’d agree that your beliefs are rooted in some pretty radical ideas. You've based them on the Bible, which is undeniably a cornerstone of Western civilization. But here’s the thing: “radical” also suggests being extreme and uncompromising, and your views definitely fit that bill. The way you present your beliefs doesn’t leave much room for other perspectives, which is why I’d call them radical.
Now, I won't touch on your near-death experience; that's a deeply personal thing, and I respect that. But I don’t think such an experience can be a universal standard for judging others' lives or beliefs. You might say these judgments come from God, but at the end of the day, that’s still your take on what God has revealed to you through scripture or your experiences. And this is where we part ways: I completely reject—radically, if you will—the idea of sin. To me, it often serves as a tool to control behavior, sometimes for good, but often to stifle what’s natural and even beautiful. I believe people should decide for themselves how to live, not based on what some supposed prophet or divine figure says is right or wrong.
The problem with your conviction is that it overreaches. It tries to take authority over others’ choices based on personal revelations or interpretations of scripture. While I fully respect that these beliefs are meaningful to you, they can’t be forced on everyone else as universal truths. Your strong sense of right and wrong works for your life, but it doesn’t take into account the rich diversity of human experience and belief.
Speaking of beliefs, you mentioned “prophet” Nick Bostrom, a philosopher known for the Simulation Hypothesis. Basically, he suggests that our reality could be an artificial simulation created by some advanced civilization. Here’s the gist: If technology keeps advancing at this crazy pace, future civilizations might be able to create hyper-realistic simulations that are indistinguishable from reality. If that’s possible, then statistically, we might already be living in one of those simulations instead of what we call “base reality.”
Now, like any belief system—including Christianity—this hypothesis can’t be proven without some revelation (in this case, evidence from the creators of the simulation). So, it’s not science, but more philosophy mixed with speculation. However, it does spark fascinating questions about existence and consciousness without needing to cling to traditional religious frameworks.
I grew up questioning religious authority from a young age—especially Christianity—and I’ve never really resolved those doubts. While I see how important faith can be for others, I’ve always struggled with its claim to absolute truth. To me, faith is personal and subjective; it can guide people but shouldn’t dictate universal laws or morals.
I respect that your beliefs are central to who you are, but they aren’t universal truths—they’re your truths. Just like you feel the need to share your beliefs about Jesus Christ, others feel just as strongly about exploring different paths—whether through science, philosophy, or other spiritual traditions. The beauty of being human lies in our diversity of thought and experience.
You first need to learn the definition of radical. And you totally contradicted yourself by saying that the Bible is the cornerstone of western civilization, that would be the opposite of anything radical, as civilization is the opposite of radical. And again radical does not mean root, not even remotely. It means far reaching, a thorough and fundamental change, and the only person who could say the Bible would be radical, are murderers, rapists, pediphiles, and then, yes, the ideas in the Bible would be very radicals to somebody like a child molester, because the Bible is about redemption, decency, purity, living without sin,…Things that benefit children, create great lasting marriage between men and women, it’s full of healthy principles that prosper entire communities , full of accurate history, science, mathematics, everything good that has created the only civilized decent societies in the world…. The only free people on earth the healthiest the happiest…. The opposite of anything radical….. I would say the Shiite Muslim is radical, people who oppress their women I would even say the orthodox Jew is radical… going by the mosaic law, because the Bible actually teaches, the law was given as a punishment…. But most people don’t understand their own book….. you have to study in order to even know what you’re talking about…. And I would get a dictionary and look up some words I would start with the word root….. and then look up the word understand. Then I would actually the Torah then I would read the other 34 books of the Old Testament, then I would read the entire new testament, which is 27 books… I would also read the Quran, the Kabbalah I would learn about Krishna jihad I would learn about other nations, radical ideas, and how they affected the masses of people….. then I’ll be able to have an intelligent conversation about these things.
Let's examine the concept of “radical” carefully. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, radical is directly “relating to, or going to the root or fundament” and originates from the Latin word “radix”. Your assertion that “radical does not mean root, not even remotely” is therefore incorrect.
Your stance exhibits the very characteristics of radicalism you criticize in others. Proverbs 16:18 states clearly “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall”. Similarly, Proverbs 29:23 emphasizes that “A man's pride shall bring him low: but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit”
Your approach parallels what you criticize in other religious extremists—claiming exclusive access to truth while dismissing others‘ perspectives. You advocate for studying various religious texts, yet your statements suggest you’ve already concluded that only your interpretation is valid. This mirrors the very fundamentalist thinking you criticize in “Shiite Muslims” and “orthodox Jews.”
The irony is that your position represents exactly what “radical” means in contemporary usage: “extreme” and “far—reaching”. By insisting that your interpretation alone represents “everything good that has created the only civilized decent societies,” you demonstrate the kind of uncompromising stance characteristic of religious extremism.
Religion is a sin…. The Catholic Church is not biblical…. Radical.? The only radical thing I ever knew was killer waves, and when I used to skate pools that was radical…. And I have great joy in all kinds of pleasures on this earth, because they are of god like sports love food even making money if I do the right thing with it and don’t love the money and just enjoy it…. The things you’ve learned sound like radical religious extreme craziness… I would’ve gotten out of the church as I’ve left churches and synagogues because they are dead or they teach really ridiculous things that don’t match up with the Bible certainly not with God or Jesus Christ… not to mention I died in 1998 and popped out of my body and I saw things that are in the Bible and without a doubt Jesus Christ is going to be judging everybody with his father. They are twins something pops out of the body it will either get taken down and then someday up into the clouds for that judgment. Those are the two places I saw. I didn’t know what that was until seven years ago when I started reading these things…. And I am not part of a church or any religious group because God and the Word of Jesus Christ is not religion. It is against religious belief or religious works…. I am far from a radical I’m normal and have rational thinking… and I certainly don’t call people radical whatever’s after reading some things they wrote, but I would say, if you believe that this to be true with me, you have been tight some things I would not pay attention to….
You realize that more than a few marriages have no mention of the skygod and live happily ever after. If you believe that god is omniscient , all loving and all knowing, then it stands to reason that he intentionally allows all the pain and suffering in the world. This monster could easily end childhood cancer, but chooses not to, yet u praise him. He knows exactly what everyone’s future holds , thereby nullifying the idea of free will. I know, the lord works in mysterious ways and it’s not for we mere peons to understand his intent. Blah, blah, blah. Religious zealotry is a pox on the land
You have to study scripture in depth… it’s a never ending study, but it is absolutely true. We are a fallen people…. The cancer is because of peoples sin…. Everybody wants God to be the way they want God to be…. But when you’re talking about somebody who actually created all the universe, all the worlds, human, DNA, actually made the first body from carbon and nitrogen from the ground…. And when you look at every symbiotic relationship between plant and animal air water earth…. Nothing could be random. And God made us and had given us a commandment that we broke… ever since then the body has been dying earlier, getting tumors… look at the sin of man… and then the sinful man wants to make judgments about what God should, or shouldn’t do? We had free will…. And we’ve been blowing it from day one. And God does not care about anything, except for giving us the truth that there is a way out….. when the person dies the thing that God made inside of us pops out…. If it is not connected to God, there will be no portal opening up to take that thing back…. It has the personality The Voice, everything the person is to some extent pops out of the body. That thing does not have any cancer that thing lives forever that is not just a spirit it has weight, 21 g to be exact… there is so much proof, but man is ignorant and stupid… and he will suffer consequences for that stupidity. There are very few people who will be going back with God when they pop out of their body. If people don’t want to believe this…. What a huge gamble that would be. To go about life making decisions based on one’s own ideas…. And possibly risking eternal life down under the ground in some compression chamber that is horrific. God is not all about love and peace and the things people would like to believe…. God gave us one chance and we blew it. Then he gave us another chance by allowing us a way out of this hell of evil and wicked behavior, which causes cancer., causes war, rape murder, immoral sexuality…. It gets worse and worse as the decades go on, and people move further away from the word of God. You can call people zealots if they really believe., and that won’t change truth. Who says God has to be any certain way.? It tells you exactly what is what in these books… what is not explained, is not needed… nobody needs to know what they can’t figure out, because there is life after death, and it is very simple to live without sin, without lying without cheating, without anger, without resentment, without sex outside of marriage, giving up worldly pleasures, and understanding God works in this particular way it is already set…. If somebody doesn’t believe us and they are wrong.? Think of that gamble… how foolish that would be. If I’m wrong? I did not gamble anything…. I gave up a lot of bad things and things that don’t profit. There is no profit in sexual pleasure…. Because it ends. There is no profit in lying or pornography or cheating., there is no profit for having a relationship with sex and no commitment of marriage, of those relationships are full of sin, there is no commitment, so there is the room for all kinds of obstacles, heartbreak, breaking up, no honoring of any commitment. So there is no real profit there., and we get old and die. So why would I gamble? It is only the non-believer that takes the biggest risk on earth…. Somebody who comes up with their own ideas about what God is or what should be. It is so simple to follow the law of God, which is not legalism. It is not Judaism, or even Christianity. The way people live their lives…. It is not religious., it is absolutely the law of nature just like we breathe out carbon dioxide and the plants breathe it in…. God made us a certain way with something inside that pops out when we die. It is that thing that pops out that we actually are, the outside body is made of carbon and nitrogen, it decays, it turns to carbon and hydrogen back into the ground as oil….. that’s why oil as mentioned almost 200 times in the Bible, that’s why it says something from the ground made Adam… in the Hebrew word Afar it means something deeper than dirt, dust, or mud, and Howard somebody thousands of years, know that? That it is something in the ground like oil? It’s because God was here, he did come down and dwell with the first people, but when they disobeyed, they caused sin, they poisoned this earth, poisoned man’s purity… and God could no longer dwell here….. he looks like us… now they are twins, Jesus and his father are twins… they will be judging every human being on earth after death. I actually saw these two, in 1998 when I died, and I popped out of my body at a party in New York City. It’s a long story, but I got taken down for a second to that place that’s described as Hades…. It’s a place of torment like a holding place. It was horrific pitch black, and it felt like I was being squeezed. A Crystaline tube opened up a tornado and it sucked me up into the clouds where I saw these twins. There is a lot more to it. But I can assure you this was no vision., it was no outer body experience like people talk about. I was more alive outside of my body that I am today. Anyone who doesn’t believe he’s taking the worst gamble… and if people just take a look at how stupid our society is as a whole, how ignorant and utterly foolish, the human being is… one has to look at their own ideas and realize they know nothing, and true wisdom, and truth comes from the fear that what I’m telling you could be true. And if it is true., nobody should gamble anything on this earth like I said that has no real value. If there’s even a slight possibility that I’m telling you the truth…. How foolish would it be to not believe? Because believing could never be foolish… giving up the worst things, giving up things that do not profit humanity, could never be foolish. But having one’s own ideas about biblical things, denying that God is what it says in the book? And then risking maybe being taken down to that horrific place? It actually says in the Bible only a fool would not believe. And one more time., if I’m wrong? No big deal. But if you’re wrong and you don’t believe this.? That is beyond a mistake… one cannot fathom that kind of gamble and losing…..
Once the church began to talk in cold arms-length terms about "Christian principles" and "Judeo-Christian" institutions as epitome expressions of who our Lord is and what He came to do (glorify God and cause us to enjoy Him in intimate fellowship, forever) thinking that if we just got those gifts of His back, we would be happy, she was already well down the road toward the same sort of divorce-ready estrangement our host here captures in such painfully poignant literary detail.
The true church (born-again, i.e., Holy-Spirit regenerate, Christ-trusters in all times and places--the holy bride/body of Christ ) appreciates those gifts. We feel pain at their loss; no question. But above all, her/our eyes are submissively fixed on her/our beloved as a personal living being, expressed in His word, revealed by His Holy Spirit.
"This is eternal life, that they may KNOW You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (John 17:3) "Know" here is a spiritual stand-in for the intimacy reserved for man and wife, with the ultimate meaning and purpose of marriage being His glory and exaltation.
I would even say if you really want to understand why radical is actually used in the modern day to describe the worst people that want to destroy free societies like the Christian Judea foundational America, you can look at the mathematical radical symbol… it’s really what was used in a descriptive, drawing to show a severe angle….. but your definition of radix… goes along with ancient philosophers, ideas of the world being flat…. And they really have no meaning anymore….. like I said, just because you can correlate the word radical to a word like root…… what does that have to do with a radicalized person today? And the fact that high academia will point to radicalization as not being that bad as someone who just wants to fundamentally change a government drastically…. That is absolutely inaccurate… because we as a country want to drastically change Iran and a lot of Muslim countries who have been chilling, billions of people for centuries with their ideals, which are radical, that does not make us radicals. Only in the eyes of those few dictators who want to keep those people depressed so they can stay in power. Get your ideals in line, and enough with the nonsense…. People aren’t having it. And the only reason we have 4 billion people who have moved away from biblical principles in this world, is because of the loud radicals, and a evil cabal in the Democratic Party in the United States that had enough power to remove the Bibles from schools in the 60s, and over a 40 year period did astronomical damage to a huge population of people, and now you can see the global suffering, because if it… yes, we’ve always had suffering and poverty around the world….. but less than 80 years ago this country had over a 95% church going populous, with the same percentage of people, married without divorce. The black communities had less than 2% divorce…. The only radical idea came out of a democratic party that wanted to fundamentally change what was good…. The masses… the entire country became a super power in less than 200 years….. the masses, the people who thought like I do today….. we are the opposite of radical…. The polar opposite…. Only a small group of people who damage destroy, hate, and whose ideas have never had any value in society as a whole, those people are radical. Show me one group that thinks like me that ever tried to destroy or caused such devastation like the leaders of Iran or India, or China or North Korea or Hugo Chavez Mao, Vladimir Lenin, Adolf Hitler….. he believed in the public school system, so did Vladimir Lenin they were radical….. he did not share the same values or principles as billions of other people that did not want those things in their lives. At the route of what these guys were about, certainly was not at the root foundation of biblical principles that created Israel to be the most powerful in the region in less than 100 years with the smallest army man for man being the most powerful… and billions of people around the world are in line with those principles…. Not the other way around. People that want to destroy Israel are radicals…. They make up a very small amount of people. Because the proof is in history…. It’s in the masses….. I’ve never seen 5 billion radicals…. I’ve never seen 2.5 billion radicals in the world….. I’ve never seen a country where the populous is full of radicals…. Show me one…. Just show me one nation, whose populous is full of radicals, and don’t point to Gaza… because that was actually called Judea and Samaria… place as Gaza, until the PLO radical terrorist group was handed that land by the Israelis, which was a huge mistake….. you should check out your history along with root words
So how do you know which parts of the Bible to take seriously and which parts, like the murder or the slavery or the laying with another man's wife, just for 3 examples, do you know to not take seriously? If it's ALL the word of God set down through man?
Willy, that is an excellent question. I would say you need to read a lot more than 3 or 4 verses of the Bible (plus have a mind/heart AT LEAST open to acknowledging you have a creator to which you are accountable) to gain understanding.
I can't vouch for (or recommend) Bud's (or my own) special experiences as the basis for proving the inerrancy and sufficiency of God's word, but rather point you to the one who claims to be its author and its "telos" (the point of it being revealed to us). In Luke 24:25-27 and 24:45+, Jesus claims to be the object of all the revelation in the 66 books by 40 authors. (That's not the only place such a claim is made for the scope and integrity and self-referential beauty and perfection of scripture, but it's one of the clearest in that it also highlights how fallen man, without regeneration by the Holy Spirit, will read it wrongly.)
So, just read it... as someone challenged me to do, even though, at first, I only wanted to read "the red letters".
Regarding your question/challenge about the stuff we tend to take to be self-evidently wrong, and trusting it to be an honest question (as it certainly was for me!!) I'll leave you with three things:
1) Indicatives are not imperatives; lots of things recorded in Scripture need to be differentiated from what pleases God. Once you see that every historical figure in Scripture other than Jesus was a lunkhead idiot sinner, just like you and me, hopeless without His grace, things get clearer.
2) To say that murder, man-stealing, adultery (or anything else) is wrong, one needs an authoritative place to stand: a firm law with a firm law-giver to back it up universally and not just in this or that culture, or b/c I said so, or feel so here in Western Civilization, grounded in Christian thought.
3) The Bible claims for itself that the Holy Spirit, who is fully God, guided and directed lunkhead idiot sinners to write exactly what He wished to have written, and also to preserve it and distribute it out into every language such that man is without excuse. That does not make the writers angelic; nor does it change the fact that each had his own unique style and emphasis. But what it does is to make the entirety of Scripture all of a piece--a beautiful, glorious, perfectly integrated text unlike any other (as a published author, I can say that with authority) that reveals man's ONLY means of being saved from God's judgment, in wrath: Christ Jesus, the singular long-promised Messiah-God-man.
That’s about correct….. my own experience first hand is just a first hand account of that plays Hades I saw it, myself, the place of torment before people get taken up for judgment. And the police in the clouds I gotta take it up in the Crystaline tube the tornado, I don’t know who else that could be…. Twins…. Floating in a box with white robes with the leaves around them…. Majestic, old men that I could describe in detail… and the person between them that I knew from earth I can only think that we will see somebody like that that was in our lives at a certain time or at the time of death…. As that person was actually in the room when I died…. And they said that they were there to protect me at that time…. Maybe the person was only there at that moment, because I wasn’t going to be judged I was going to live and I hadn’t condemned and stuck in that place under the ground…. I can only attest to what I saw…. And after reading scripture, and I agree with you and almost everything…. Everybody in the Old Testament is a sinner… especially the greatest figures like Moses… David, David is where we get the word pornography from porneo from him looking at Bathsheba… murderer, he was all kinds of bad things… we are a fallen people from the beginning… but I was just saying that what I saw could only be Jesus Christ and his father making that Bible, correct…. The studying of scripture… that’s just an ongoing daily thing that keeps revealing things that help with all that stupidity and sin that gets in the way of understanding it…. Some of the comments that people make… denouncing the Bible, rejecting it, or making fun of anybody who truly believes in Jesus…. I can only say that is a grave mistake… there is no doubt that every person that dies will find out that there’s something inside of them that pops out, they will be wide awake totally alive, wrap around them and take them down to eight pitch black horrific place and they will stay there completely awake in the dark probably screaming who knows….. and there’s no way out from what I believe. Unless somebody can scream in thrust upwards like I did and God will open that tornado and suck them up into the clouds… but from what I read that isn’t heaven… that’s the place people go for judgment after being taken up from Hades, and then it says they will be judged and thrown in the lake of fire. I didn’t see any of that stuff. I was allowed to see what I saw. And what other reason with God allow me to see something like that? Other than to warn others. That’s basically my job to help bring people to Jesus Christ… I study scripture to become more of an apologetic and figure out how to articulate and tell people that these things are true when they argue that man wrote the books, or Jesus was just a man, a good man, and he was not God… and all these other questions like why wouldn’t he just show himself today or, anybody could’ve just written the Bible because it wasn’t the original scripture. It was put together in 300 A.D. handed down from mostly witnesses and scriptures that were being taught in the churches…. So there’s a lot of prophecy, common sense… archaeological historical.. like when I learned about the apostles, and I believe they absolutely existed there’s enough evidence that they lived. I wondered why all of them would give their lives, and allow themselves to be tortured by the Romans, and not denounce Jesus, they would’ve all been enriched, because if they denounced Jesus, his followers would have also not believed in the Romans would have kept a lot of power that they were losing to the people who were following these apostles, and Jesus. But they gave their lives. You couldn’t find 12 guys today to give their life even for Jesus…. A lot of people have doubt…. I wonder how many people in the church would never denounce, or reject Jesus, under torture and threat of life? A lot of people would reject Jesus to save their life. The fact that these guys did not, they saw Jesus alive after he died. That would be the only way they everyone of them would give their lives, and never reject Jesus. They absolutely saw him after they saw him die. They saw him alive. And that’s just one thing. I also say to anyone, that if I’m wrong about my belief, as Jesus is God, and there is life after this, if we give ourselves to him, and every day adhere to his word, love him with all our mind, body and soul, and have this truth for him in our heart getting rid of sin.. all of it, if I’m wrong… what harm does that do? But if the nonbeliever is wrong? If somebody is wrong about rejecting Jesus, and they say it’s all a bunch of bunk…. Imagine that mistake.? that’s why it says only a fool would not believe. It’s not even worth the gamble especially if there’s even an inkling of a chance that there could be eternal life forever somewhere? How could anybody not want to go that route? Especially when the things given up are really nothing that lasts like sex, money not that we have to be broke. It’s OK to have wealth…. Foul language, sexual thoughts, lust, anger, resentment, lies…giving up these things is good…I would choose believing and act accordingly. Plus..when someone truly believes…and the person changes because of that, the fear and love of God…. Miracles will be seen…. God will absolutely perform miracles to make the person even more convicted…. The believing causes God to perform things….. and there’s plenty of proof in the modern day of that… I have a plethora of things that God did for me that are absolutely hid Him, that in no way, could these things have been done without some insane super natural occurrence from something outside this world… like a total impossibility….. and this happens over and over. It is 100% because of my total, not just belief….. but a absolute knowing… I know Jesus Christ is God and God is listening to every word I say, he watches everything I do, and he’s absolutely performing these miracles that I’ve seen. Every day besides talking to him all day long….. I’m trying to find ways to bring my loved ones, friends, and anybody to Him… pointing to these books… from genesis to revelation I look at it as one book…. But there’s over 5 billion people from what I believe the reject this…. And we have a massive amount of people in this country laughing at it…. And I know that’s what it says… it says most people won’t make it. They will reject God. They will reject Jesus…. But I’m doing my best to give this word and point to the book, tell my story, and also point out a lot of proof… that the sin of man produces these horrible things that we see every day… the consequences of divorce, of resentment, of lying, of greed, there is a lot of proof that the Bible is correct. And I would say to a lot of these commenters that poke fun…. How foolish they are. Imagine if they’re wrong, and they die…. And then they find out that they’re going to be taken down to that place that I saw.? They were worshiping some other God or maybe no God, just loving sin, they love foul language they chose the F word instead of Jesus… they chose having sex with different partners without being married…. Going their own way, hating and resenting people, imagine when they find out that they were wrong… as time goes on, and I study scripture more and connect to God every day… these people sound more and more foolish and it is a scary thing to me… I look at my old behavior and I am so happy today that I know exactly what this life is about and that it is not with any of these people think… we are supposed to get out of here and there’s only One Way out after the body dies and that is to believe in Jesus Christ as our savior he is God he created us that thing inside of us that pops out. And one more thing…. Those tornadoes we see in the movies, and in Kansas in the Midwest….. those are signs of the thing that takes us up but it’s from another planet… it’s from some other place made out of material unseen on this earth… anyway I’m done. This was a little lengthy…..
So glad that you've become, but your own view, an authority on the best way for everyone to live their lives, regardless of what they may actually believe. It's really great for you.
I would’ve never taken any of it seriously but I died in 1998 and I popped out of my body at a party in New York City and I floated through a wall over first Avenue near Houston. Some thing wrapped around me and took me down to a dark pitch, blackness compression sort of chamber where it was painful for a second and I screamed and thrust it upward and a crystalline tornado appeared made out of the most brilliant material, and I shot through it like a bullet for about eight seconds into the clouds, and I saw two old men floating in a sort of wooden box, with white robes, woolly hair, giant eyes and someone I knew, standing sort of between them in front of them. They didn’t look happy, but the person said congratulations. When I said well, you would like some angel sent to protect us meaning me and my friends., the person said no, not us, you…. And you can go back now. I was back in my body in the weirdest way…. I thought it was some whacked out vision though it was more real than life that was 1998. Seven years ago I started reading the Old Testament and the new as one book…. There was no doubt in my mind. It was Jesus Christ and his father twins…. There are a lot of things in the Bible we could doubt… the fact that the new testament was written 300 years after the apostles were killed… by the way they were actually real people that gave their lives and could’ve had riches and homes if they just denied, Jesus was God, the Romans offered them everything, but they denied it and they were killed tortured. You couldn’t find 12 people to do that, unless they actually saw Jesus alive after he was dead. I wouldn’t worry about what’s not true. The fact that we pop out of our bodies when we’re dead and somehow God who created this thing inside of us, gave a lot of witnesses proof 40 authors, 66 books, both testaments over 3000 years written by people, all kinds of people many whom witnessed God… it is almost impossible that all these books would actually have the same thread, be perfectly in tune with each other…. There’s so much proof, scientifically, archaeological historical that it is beyond believe, including the fact that the first man, Adam and Eve Adam was made for something in the ground. Science proves that we are made out of carbon and nitrogen, and then, when we decay turns into carbon and hydrogen, which is a Oil…. 3000 prophecies have already come true perfectly…. I have a living testament that this is real. There are things that aren’t described because the actual scripture from the apostles is not in there it’s from witnesses… and 300 A.D. was when they put the Canon together people from all over the world kings scribes that were related to the people in the church is for hundreds of years were already putting these things together because the Whitney thing was handed down… whatever we can’t figure out, we will find out after we die. But make no mistake. Anybody who denies that this could be true think of the gamble? What sense would it make to choose pleasure in this life and things that are really not lasting and just get in line with what it says… if anybody finds out when it’s too late that that tube that tornado doesn’t open up that thing that pops out will live forever in some horrific place. That’s really the message. He talks about hell in the New Testament more than anything else because it’s a warning and also good news that we can get out of this life and the debt that is coming.. I have a lot more on it and some audios but I’m in a rush and please reach out to me. I want to tell you more. I have audio also and Jessica Reed Kraus has published my stuff. She showed up in my life for 24 hours after I asked God to send somebody with the big platform…. I never was on social media and my wife because I waited. I was also prophesies about why a rabbi in 2002 and a fortuneteller in 91one who told me all these things would happen…. Roseanne, Barr, Bon Jovi, and Kevin Aucoin. We’re also the other three that this fortuneteller prophesies about….. anybody who comes to me and he’s hearing this message I guarantee it has something to do with God and no doubt these things are true. There is heaven and hell…. I don’t even bother with the things that don’t make sense are the things I don’t believe that are totally correct or just not in the scripture. A lot of stuff is left out and that does not matter. What matters is there’s something inside of us that is not human and that has your voice and your mannerisms and when you dye it will pop out like that movie 21 g. I had friends in medical school in Italy. One of them said he seen these things pop out of somebody’s body and it’s true 21 g leaves the body as soon as you die. Anyway, God bless and I hope we keep in touch.
And I can’t find that comment about your marriage failing, And something about your bride, But I do remember commenting on anybody’s marriage and their ideas of what they think marriage is and their sexual relations before marriage…. And most people just don’t think that it is their own fault for not believing in God not be believing that sex is for marriage only and you shouldn’t have sex before marriage and if you do, you will have nothing good in your life that you would have if you Obeyed the commandments of God. Half my generation is divorced everybody’s cheating lying. We all had sex with our girlfriend for years before we got married, thinking we could go on and have healthy marriages. Then people get divorced they blame each each other. The woman says her husband did this or that the man says the wife did this or that and guess what? Both parties are sick. The man is sick. The woman is sick. That’s why we have little boys turning into transsexuals. We have pornography in school. We’ve got foreign invasion We have people voting for him Communist socialist, Marxist, and fascist government, expanding insane evil people, Everybody’s bisexual bisexual we have kids screaming on college campuses death to Jews death to America. We have radical Islamic Senators, congressman and professors and doctors at universities who are teaching anti-American hatred and also Med schools teaching first year students to put little boys on hormones to have little girls cut their breasts off before puberty….. And it’s because we have people that believe they can do whatever they want they can have sex however they want they don’t have to be married they believe in divorce they believe in abortion… Every problem you have in this world is from sin from man being sinful and wicked and evil…. And if you have any problems in life, it’s probably your fault from the things you’ve done and consequences if your behavior your speech… Millions of things you’re not looking at. To God and repent for your sins and you feel remorse for what you’ve done…. That’s the best advice I can give
You should try making sense. Write something valid.. nothing worse than people writing stuff like you do like little kids who call each other names because they’re brains aren’t developed
Just one more note. I always say this. If I am wrong in what I believe about the afterlife and it’s either that horrific place or we go up that tube. If I’m wrong… I just gave up a lot of bad things in my life and lived a way better and much more caring life towards others. But if somebody is wrong, and not believing? Imagine that gamble? If you’re wrong and not believing, that would be the most horrific mistake any human could ever make. The things someone Hass to do to get in line with God are actually good in general. They are just great things that do not harm anyone. In fact, they are good for other people also. If I’m wrong, it’s no big deal. But if the nonbeliever is wrong…. That’s a mistake that can’t be reversed, and it ends up to be a total eternity, wide, awake and alive, stuck in some horrific place. People should think about this. Especially since I’ve seen it firsthand. And I was a total nonbeliever my whole life until seven years ago.
You're absolutely right, Bud. You're saying what was also said by the great thinker Blaise Pascal--it's called Pascal's wager. I don't care if Christianity is 'a lie'--if it is, it's still a BETTER lie than the ones that guide most people. And you are also correct that the so-called 'sexual revolution' and its emphasis on personal happiness as the meaning of life has grossly damaged the world of relationships.
Almost brings tears to my eyes when I hear this from somebody because very few people are going to make it back after they die… it was beyond a realization for me, because when I started reading scripture seven years ago, it only took one line in first John in the New Testament before I went back and started reading from Genesis in the old, just one line about the word being spoken he was talking about Genesis. It all hit me. I knew Jesus Christ was God and the whole thing was real. And my entire life made total sense especially all the pleasures I’ve had every single thing I’ve ever looked at of beauty that I wanted. It came to me. Every accident I was saved from I was protected supernaturally. I already knew this from a young age. It was like I was in mortal and I knew it. The Judaism was all wrong. I thought Jesus was definitely not God….. I lived this very weird life where I just didn’t worry about any of it… I had serious understanding of the things I did wrong, but I didn’t hold guilt over it because I knew that was useless. I wasn’t one of those people who did drugs, and then had a downside., when I did something wrong like hurting someone’s feelings I usually never did that ever again those things I had some morals there… I had this weird thing all my life, and it was God. He allowed me to have all these pleasure is he allowed me to experience every kind of person on earth for a certain amount of decades, and then it was time for him to come down, and basically strip me of everything… and I even knew that’s what it was. When I was losing things when I was stuck in the desert when I lost my inheritance movie deals cars houses…. Laughing and crying at the same time because I knew I was gonna go through some major stuff and I knew it was God…. I did not know I was gonna end up with the New Testament and the old as one book and I certainly didn’t think it was going to be Jesus until I started reading and then that thing that happened to me in 1998….. the twins in the clouds, Jesus and his father. Whether I was allowed to see the vision of them, or it was actually them is irrelevant….. it was real. I was out of my body. My body was dead inside an apartment and I was outside over the street then I was underneath the ground. Then I went up a Crystaline tornado, and I saw those guys in the clouds. Now I know my only job is to have as many people here this as possible in the world. I can’t see any other reason why I would be allowed to see something like that. It’s definitely not for me alone. And all those people I’ve met through my life the thousands of people all those famous people hundreds of A-list actors and athletes in musicians all my friends I grew up with hundreds of them entire communities know who I am because I had that freedom to be everywhere every party, every restaurant, every café, every place during every holiday…. I didn’t really care about careers. Even when I got a three picture deal with Paramount I threw it all the way and ended up in the desert lost my inheritance. I had a broken flip-flop a Terry Mugler jacket brand new Ripcurl wetsuit no phone my car was hidden from loansharks. This was 2004… I knew the story was going to be so fantastic that once I got back on my feet, it was going to be worth something…. Like I was a little nuts to have that kind of attitude during such a insane loss….. my strength, Health I was an athlete for years, so I was able to survive grueling physical trials that most people would’ve not been able to handle I did it and really enjoyed it. I got into some of the loss I got into the suffering, looking at it like a fantastic chapter…. But this last seven years after realizing Jesus Christ as God wow what a bitter, sweet few years especially since everybody I’ve ever loved is not going to make it…. Family members my ex first love who is in contact with me today…. Man…. I feel like this is the only thing important in life is to have people understand that we pop out of our body and almost everybody will be taken down by these demons that are all over the ground. They are everywhere under the Earth above the Earth…. I’m even learning that there are tons of other human beings. On other planets just like us, but they are perfect in pristine. They are not fallen. They started out like Adam and Eve and they are perfect. They probably have been coming down here and checking us out like this UFO that hovering above me at the beach in 1978. From what I understand they can’t interact with us or they will be poisoned by our sin the demons here…. But they know that we’re here and they know that were suffering and we’re going to be in hell most of us. Every day I’m learning more and more about God and the universe and everything else that’s going on. I am not out of my mind at all…. I also prayed during my losses for wisdom, and not money, and not to regain anything…. I just asked for serious wisdom, and everything that God could give me about truth….. now I pray that other people will have changes of heart. The people that are supposed to help me message the world. I want them to come to me and bring whatever it is that I need to make this happen. God bless you and I pray God gives you the protection he has given me and gives you serious wisdom more every day, so not only do you see more truth, but you can articulate and find ways to guide people to this truth, and to make them fear and believe in God. :)
Who said that going to church and saying you believe in God, and saying that you were a Christian means that you were living out a life in line with God? The church is dead full of ungodliness in the congregations. There’s hardly a person that goes to church on Sunday that is going to make it to where God wants him to go after death. The churches and even Christian radio stations talk about the blessing of divorce how the step father and stepmother is a godsend. It’s an abomination. I don’t project my beliefs on anything in some abstract way. I am strictly by the word of God. Divorce is evil, he has destroyed almost half the country’s families, it is evil, according to the word of God. The theology is completely against divorce. It’s against two kids having sex with each other and not being married. Almost every teenager Going to church is having sex with somebody and they are not married. Divorce is rampant, and pastors and even rabbis are helping couples divorce. I am a warrior against the idea of Christianity, making somebody godly, or even any kind of religious behavior, having anything to do with living, according to God’s word. It’s the acknowledgment that Jesus Christ is the messiah. He is God, and that fear of doing wrong, according to what God wants of us, and adhering and obeying, that makes somebody in line. Anything outside of that is ungodly behavior. There’s no difference between most church goers and the average club kid dressed as a different gender having all kinds of sexual partners. The person with the Bible with the cross around their neck going to church every Sunday means nothing… it’s not a reflection of anything, except for somebody who wants to have a little bit of God in your life and feel better about themselves, or maybe project an image to others, so they can feel better than others. I’ve done a lot of audio on how the churches are creating ungodly groups of people also being reformed, more concerned with having more people in the seats because pastors are now making a lot of money, and they owned property, their families are thriving on the money from the church. Churches were originally donated, the pastors were supported by charitable people, and for the most part, they were poor… they would not generate well for themselves in fear, it would reflect the wrong thing…. So much is rotten in this country…. And I don’t even consider myself Christian since I grew up in the synagogue, Christianity to me is religion, so is Judaism, it’s legalism it’s ritualistic…. Being in line with God should not have anything to do with the label it should have everything to do with Jesus and God, his father, and where we go after death. And that is something I’ve experienced first hand in 1998 when I died of an overdose in New York City. I popped out of my body and went through a wall over the street and I got taken down to a horrific place in pitch blackness painful, and then I got taken up some Crystaline tornado that opened up and sucked me into the clouds… I saw twins, to Majestic old men, floating in some kind of box with white robes leaves around them, and somebody between them I knew from earth. It’s a longer story., but today I absolutely no that was Jesus Christ and his father. A lot of it is described in the Bible. My entire behavior these days, including my speech is controlled basically by the fear of the knowledge of the truth of where we go, when we die. That is my message also to my old friends and to anybody I talked to…. One of our biggest problems in society in the world is religion, the separation of the church is the synagogues the mosques… everybody’s different ideas and behaviors…. It’s a mess. And our government has been tenacious since the 60s and making sure kids grow up without any biblical principles. They removed the Bibles from the schools, they want medication divorces abortions, sexuality, poverty, they don’t want any more children growing up to own private property. I can go on and on. But I will stop here. :)
…. That does not matter because their hearts will not be in the right place the spirit that pops out it’s not really a spirit… it has physical weight and it will get trapped down below… it will be alive forever Wideawake freaking out and it is painful. It feels like you have bones that are being squeezed…. That’s why the Bible describes it as a place of torment….. how would people know this? It’s because people have witnessed it. They’ve also seen people like Jesus alive after he was killed…… it is true….. and there is no fear and living under God. It is the complete opposite of fear it is Security it is beauty it is freedom from sin., from guilt from shame from wickedness…. It’s protection from evil….. and it’s eternal life….. there’s no such thing as luck…. There’s only God., heaven, or hell in the end. Everybody dies, so there’s no such thing as luck. Everything here is worthless. It goes away eventually.. eternal life is not worthless. That is something nobody should gamble with.
Seems like you’re the one with the assessment problem. I don’t have any fear because I fear God in heaven in hell which actually gives me great joy and love, knowing that I’m going to a beautiful place when I die. I would only be in fear if I was breaking God’s commandments if I was doing sexually immoral things using foul language stealing lying, hating somebody being resentful. I don’t have any of these things in my life, so I live completely free of any fear at all. The fear of God is something we need to have so we can have no fear of anything else in life…. You don’t walk around afraid., just like I feared doing wrong against my parents so I did well in school. When I used foul language in front of my sister, my father made me eat a piece of soap.. I saw how angry he was and that scared me, that kind of fear is good so you do right by your parents and you end up to be a good kid it’s the same with God. Your assessment is warped. And I don’t fear anything. I don’t fear Covid. I don’t fear climate change. I don’t fear miss gender Ing somebody like these insane people that are coming out of schools today with every kind of fear on earth except for the fear of God. And that’s why we have the worst society in history with the stupidest people the most ignorant, the most uneducated because there is no education anymore and there’s no biblical principles being taught in the schools. Get it right dude….. you’re way off
Also, if you just look at history, look at every nation I didn’t believe in Jesus Christ and the god of Judea. Every single nation failed. And that’s what it says what happened in the scripture. Look at every nation that came against Israel he said they would be destroyed and never come back as power. That happened to every single nation that came against Israel. It says there any nation that blesses Israel will become blessed. The United States. We became the biggest super power in less than 200 years after being in debt. With the smallest army on earth. How come India with billions of people didn’t do that? How come the Chinese didn’t do that with billions of people? How about Germany? They were the world’s greatest country with the greatest economy, the highest technology in 1930.. they went against Israel. They got destroyed and never came back as a power. How about Rome? How about Egypt? Asyria? Persia? Those last two didn’t even last with their names their names got destroyed…… you can’t find one nation in the history of the world that the Bible was not correct about. Like there is no proof on your side at all. And it said I the Israelites after being destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans., would be scattered around the world persecuted, punished, but then they would come into their own state, and it would be called Israel named after Jacob, who was named Israel. That’s exactly what happened. And every nation that comes against them will lose. It says that for over 4000 years. And in 4000 years, there’s not one instance where this is wrong. Not to mention all the witnessing of God’s blessings God’s miracles. Even George Washington wrote extensively that it was Jesus Christ that won the war. They did not teach us that in school, but now you can read all his papers. Even Ben Franklin, all of them believed in God of the Bible. That’s why they formed our country on biblical principles. It is that reason why George Washington is on the dollar bill Ben Franklin is on the hundred, the most powerful bill in the world, and the most famous Christian, who believed in Jesus, on that dollar. Why isn’t it some other religious figure? Why not somebody from another country? Because God says in the Bible, his name will be known above all…. Nobody will conquer these things. Nobody will ever prove it wrong because it’s undeniable. Who are the biggest iconic names in the world for music? Elvis Presley, he believed in Jesus Christ. Johnny Cash. He gave his life to Jesus Christ before he died, and now they have a statue of him in front of the capital holding a Bible. They just put that up last year. The only rock ‘n’ roll person in our nations capital with a statue. How about bob Marley? He gave his life to Jesus Christ, even changed his name to a Hebrew name., he song about Zion…. He’s bigger than life. The Grateful Dead, the biggest musical act in the world right now., with the biggest number of fans ever assembled. In 1977 almost a half 1 million people were at Englishtown New Jersey. They say it was a quarter of 1 million but we saw it. There was way more showing up for the Grateful Dead without a hit single without a hit album….. it’s because they put almost 4000 lines of scripture in their music, Robert Hunter and Jerry Garcia believed in God, Robert Hunter, wanted to make the band a religious band. That’s why they rose higher than any other musical group…. God will always have his name rise above everything else. And it says it in the Old Testament and the new….. I could list thousands of things like this… and on your side with the nonbeliever, there’s like nothing… The only thing on your side is proof that people who live their own way outside of biblical principles from God., they get wiped out they get sexualized they die earlier, their names are not known… they live in nations of poverty, destitution, pestilence disease like India, Istanbul Turkey, Egypt, where people worship cats and other countries were they worship animals instead of God. Or they have false gods like Buddha Krishna. The Chinese Chi., the feminine CHI in Chinese medicine has wiped out billions of people… they do not prosper…. Only the United States, by using the Bible and believing in God, almost 95% of the country believed in God 200 years ago…. Did we become a super power… with more families owning property than any other nation on earth per capita, with the longest lifespan’s, with the most famous people. And who do you think one more Nobel prizes than anybody on earth? Jews…. Israelites…. They have won more nobels then anyone on earth… it’s because God says his name will be above all for prosperity, for the biggest of people, the greatest of people…. The biggest sports figures., Christians, the biggest musical figures Christians, the greatest president of any nation, Christians, or people who support them…. Like Donald Trump…. He may not be a believer… but he supports the church. He supports biblical principles…. And he has become the biggest phenomenon in political history, the most famous person in the world.. that can’t be denied. And would you believe? There’s nobody….. a bunch of philosophers and gurus that nobody celebrates nobody cares about, and they have no power. The word of God has more power than anything ever in the history of the world. And with that proof….. only a fool would risk going to hell, and instead embrace sexuality, divorce, abortions, using the F word, doing whatever they want look like pornography, having sex with whomever….. those are fools…. Because they are risking damnation for eternity, and risking it for nothing because everybody dies on this earth. So all those pleasures are worthless. The proof is in everything I said.. the other side has no proof, it is fake belief on the other side, no belief, foolishness, stupidity, and that really is evil and wicked at its core, because it causes every kind of evil. People who don’t believe will do almost anything they will break the promises. They are liars… they almost lie every single day.. because they don’t believe in consequence, or they believe in karma…. Just like the Hindu…. Look what happened to the Hindus they are still living in poverty as a society for thousands of years. More babies die before the age of five years old in Bangladesh…. I wonder why Bangladesh has never come out of poverty in thousands of years? It’s because they don’t believe in Jesus Christ as a nation….. there’s no god with those people they worship cows they believe animals have spirits. The Bible says if people believe that they will perish, they will starve they will have all kinds of horrors….. show me the one nation that ever prospered without biblical principles from our Bible…… there isn’t one….. not one. Only authoritarian regimes with evil rulers, Mao, Hitler, Vladimir Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Chavez, Castro, I could give you a long list…. And everyone of those countries has never come back….. people live in poverty in those countries compared to the United States…. The most famous most powerful people in the world don’t come from those countries they come from the United States and Israel, with all the scientific awards of the world. Israel is the smallest state, and they make drinking water out of ocean water, their land is green. Look at the surrounding countries, Iran, Jordan Egypt, most of Africa….. dirt, deserts, no green, war-torn, destitution in poverty. Israel is the most thriving, most green, most prosperous with the strongest army on the planet per capita….. the proof is beyond a doubt. On your side, it is the desert there’s nothing there… how come the Egyptians can’t give their people clean, drinking water from ocean water? Why can’t Iran? Why do people in Gaza suffer since the 1950s? Israel tried to give them land., but the people who voted voted for people who hate the Bible they believe in jihad they believe in Allah…. Look what happened to them…. There isn’t one group of people in the whole world in the history of the world, whoever prospered from any other God, except for Jesus the god from the old testament.. the same one…. And there is so much more scientific fact., so much historical fact, it is beyond comprehension that anybody would ever deny, and only a fool would not believe. That’s why Pascal was a wise man….. you don’t have to believe in God to see that the people who do our way above anyone on the planet, since the world began….. it is such a stark difference, because God wants us to see the truth. I would do a lot more research and a lot more studying if I was you….. because the truth is when you die you’re going to pop out of your body. It will be too late for you if you are in your sin of not believing….. not being forgiven for every sin every lie, if you’re not forgiven by God for those things by asking….. you will end up in that place down below. There’s no such thing as a good person without God… people who feed the homeless they try not to lie they don’t cheat
I don’t see God as an institution, the word of God is just truth of life, it is man’s stupidity that creates these problems like the church today the synagogue the mosque these have been institutionalized and poisoned the actual meanings of what people believe as the word itself as it is written actually warns us of man’s ignorance and sinful ways….that’s why we are even having this conversations and millions are getting ready to celebrate sexuality as a national holiday in June…nothing more radical than that which is the polar opposite the antithesis to everything we need to have a healthy society free from radical ideas….everything in the Bible is against that….fear of God is where real wisdom comes from…and like I said I saw these things myself…witnessed death and life outside the body…I guess that could be considered radical to those who believe there’s nothing but this life to live. Men will come up with all kinds of things until they are shown something that proves what lies ahead after the body dies….others have see it..that’s how we got the scriptures….
Bud, nothing you say makes this being real and if he was real, I certainly wouldn’t choose to worship it. If I had the power to stop a child from being raped and chose to allow it, I would understandably be considered an evil monster, yet your god ignores the pain and suffering every day that HE created and somehow is deserving of worship. Not buying it
And comparing garlic around the neck? That makes no sense….. because vampires and those kinds of stories don’t make any sense, they have no verification, and no proof there is no prophecy that ever came true…. Nobody has ever seen people with bite marks in their necks….. and other things from movies that really don’t exist…. Not like the things of God…. Those can be seen every day….. there’s actually mathematical scientific historical geological fact that can be proven, and it’s hundreds of millions and billions of people, including the nations like India, China, Russia, Ukraine, Egypt, Rome, Asyria, Persia, the nations that got wiped out, the things that God said what happened and they happened exactly the way it says….. man is a fool…. The ideas you have our typical….. they are not found it on anything except your own idea. There is no proof of what you say….. zero there’s no man controlling any man with fear…. The fear of hell….. that doesn’t control people, that stops people from being stupid. My fear of going to hell prevents me from being stupid., they prevent me from getting diseases, prevents me from doing drugs, being drunk, using the F word, if you’re calling that wrong? Hahaha that’s not being controlled that’s being wise. I have wisdom where every choice I make is a wise choice….. the book doesn’t control me. It is me lessons that are correct. When you teach a child not to do something that will harm the child, are you controlling the child? Are you using fear control? Of course…. When the child fears something like the father’s wrath., the fathers correction, the child learns right from wrong. Without scolding a child, without putting the fear in the child to not do something wrong, the child will grow up and be rotten. When a child is not corrected, the child becomes unruly and stupid and hurt other people and him or herself….. just like the word of God if it is not followed, people will be stupid and they will hurt themselves. They will use foul language they will lie they will cheat. They will do what they feel like doing. That’s the truth. I would hate to have those thoughts that I used to have like you do….. I got rid of that stuff along with a lot bad behavior…. Because I fear the place down below that I saw in 1998.. if you don’t believe that’s where you’re going to end up….. I hope you don’t make that choice too much longer because you never know how much time you have left
Don’t take the risk. You’re gambling with the possible chance of damnation under the ground. Someone like me is not gambling at all. Not to mention my speech is better I don’t have any kind of immoral stuff in my life…. There’s never any resentment there’s no anger I do not lie or cheat. I don’t use the F word I have no sex outside of marriage… I do everything it says to do, because I would not gamble with something unknown after death…. Though I do know these things personally., most people do not know them, so they cannot know for sure. Why would anyone gamble with that? If you see the suffering on this earth…. There is eternal suffering afterwards for people who are sinning against God….. it is a horrific place down under…. I saw it myself, and I was taken up…. That’s why I have somebody with the biggest platform recording my story. Jessica Reed Kraus…. And she’s not a believer…. But she is listening and so are hundreds of millions of people who have heard me already….. and I have never been on social media in my life… when I was ready with my voice, I asked God to send somebody with a platform. 24 hours later, Jessica Reed Kraus showed up at UCLA last spring, and she just happen to be sitting in her car listening to me yelling at somebody with a dog…. She recorded me.. I have a list of things that God did for me exactly like this…. Within 24 hours delivered exactly what I asked for. The witnesses and the things he delivered were absolutely impossible. The things that I’ve witnessed were the impossible happening over and over., in order to have this testament, that would be undeniable. Hopefully you will hear more…. how many people believe exactly what I’m telling you, and why…. And how the proof is all on my side it is all on the side of the Bible…… and there is zero proof of your not believing…. Like zero….. that makes no sense. And it is a horrific mistake if you’re wrong.
That’s called Paschal’s wager. I am not afraid of a fantasy world created by man to control other men, anymore than I’m afraid that not hanging garlic over my door will protect me from vampires. It’s sad that during such a short life people need to fear this supposed all loving god and worship him daily in order to attain this magical world. Question- I consider myself a good person. Good husband, good father, grandfather, etc. yet according to you, I will suffer eternal damnation if I don’t worship this narcissistic being. On the other hand , if someone is a serial killer, child molester and asks for god’s forgiveness on his death bed, he’ll get a free pass to the pearly gates. It’s laughably sick and twisted to believe this garbage
What man controls another man? Who am I being controlled by? I believe that lying is bad cheating is bad I saw that sex outside of marriage destroys peoples lives causes heartbreak diseases, drug addiction suicide… I saw that sexual education and pornography destroy peoples lives… the sin that I gave up, how am I being controlled by hating those things? By reading something in the books and seeing for my own eyes, how stupid society is, and how stupid people are.? no man controls what I think in fact, I stopped thinking the way I used to think like you do… I used to have the same idea you do… I realized what a fool I was, and how I was acting like all the other people in the country and around the world who are allowing this world to go down the tubes. Choosing pleasure that does not last., denying what is true in front of my own eyes. Looking at legal divorce. Abortion. Pornography….. and who’s being controlled? Everything else that is gross disgusting destructive, and does not profit., those things control man, like money…. And it is mankind and the stupid thinking of men that they have no control…. There is no Bible that controls people. There is no man who controls another man with fear….. I fear God’s wrath because I’ve seen it with my own eyes. There is no man to fear on this earth…. And there has never been one man who has ever controlled anybody….. people do what they want…. Show me the population of people who are controlled.? I’ll show you a robots
You really don’t address anything I’ve said, but honestly , I wouldn’t expect it. A fictitious being controls you. You don’t do good because it’s the right thing to do, you do it out of fear and that is the definition of control. I do the best I can for my fellow man because it’s the right thing to do, not because I’ll be rewarded in an after life.
God did not create pain and suffering…. That was from man….. man does what he feels…. God does not stop that…. He allows the worst things to happen…. And because man is greedy and dishonest, the worst the crisis on this planet, the more people will come to God. More people turn to God in suffering then they do when they have tons of money and they are comfortable and happy. In fact, most people that are super happy and wealthy will never be with God. And God does not care about the suffering down here because there is life after this. This is where you missed the entire point. You think this earth and suffering down here is something to care about. Whether a baby dies, or the baby grows up and dies when it’s 90 years old, it is no different. If there is eternal life….. that’s forever which means it makes this life ridiculously worthless. Somebody’s pain and suffering is worthless. God made the Earth and the moon and the sun and everything in the world., he also made thousands of other worlds, it’s probably where we have those UFOs. They are human beings that did not sin against him… they live in worlds where there is no cancer no murder, no war… they didn’t make the mistakes that we did…. People would love to argue these points because they don’t want to believe in anything but their own ideas. When a person realizes they are not smart enough to even fathom how this world works and what we actually are as humans, that’s the beginning of getting the wisdom that they need to understand what is Worthwild and what is worthless. That whole idea of suffering that God would not allow suffering.? That is a typical view of somebody who uses their own intellect to try to figure things out. The suffering never lasts. All suffering ends…. Everybody who was alive 300 years ago is no longer here. So what difference does it make when they died or how they died? The wisdom of God comes from the knowledge that there is something after this life. This life is a vapor. It is over quickly…. Pain and suffering is over quickly…. All of that is worthless. If you don’t believe there is life after this, that is your gamble, you will take., and you can have all those ideas about suffering and what God should do, or could do, or wouldn’t do. When the reality is, it’s already made the way it’s made. The body dies, and something pops out, and it can go back to where it was created. It will live forever without any disease or anything no suffering. So if somebody suffers down here, once they die, it will all be over and they live forever. Somewhere else that is much better. And if somebody doesn’t believe this can happen? Then, how is the Earth spinning around, going around the sun, thousands of miles an hour? How is it that we create things and no other animals evolve like we do? How is it that the sun and the solar system move around thousands of miles an hour in a galaxy? The Milky Way.? How is it that there are other stars and galaxies out there with black holes in all those things? How did they get there? If somebody doesn’t believe that is a stupid gamble….. the worst most foolish gamble a person could ever make is to think that the Bible couldn’t be real and the directions it gives couldn’t be correct. I’ve never met a human being that is smarter or more intelligent than the old and New Testament, combined as history and truth of mankind. Not one academic from Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Oxford, all the professors PHDS’s every scientist that ever was… morons, except for the ones that really understood the word, and believed…. They had true wisdom….. I would not risk it if I was you. You cannot separate the fact that everyone dies….. and suffering is a fact…. If you want to point, fingers at God, like he wouldn’t do this, or wouldn’t do that…. You’re making up your own ideas from your own thoughts your own head….. and that just doesn’t do anything but separate you from truth. Some people like me have actually seen the other side. It is absolutely more possible that something pops out of your body when you die, and you have a chance to go back to where you were created. There’s actually more proof that god did make something inside the body during the pregnancy where he put a part of him that is actually who you are, you are related to that God, more than your own parents. And that’s where all your ideas about suffering on earth are meaningless. They are not founded on anything but thought and emotion. It even says peoples emotions are worthless. And that is a fact. And again I’ve seen it myself in 1998. It wasn’t until six years ago when I started studying the scripture from genesis to revelation….. that I realized who I saw in the clouds, what I saw down below, that is all spelled out clearly in the Bibles….. and I am no fool…. I’d never take the risk of not believing this now. Because if I’m wrong? I just gave up everything sinful…… but if you’re wrong? Not only did you give up the chance to be alive forever in a perfect world, you will be tracked down below… something will wrap around you and take you down and you will be trapped. How’s that for possible reality? Because it is possible….. you can’t know for sure… so you are the one gambling… you have to rely on your own intellect? Do you think you’re absolutely correct?? you’re gambling. I am not taking any gamble. It does say only a fool would not believe. I wouldn’t take that chance, no matter how much suffering no matter what people say…. Because people are severely stupid on this planet…. And they get stupider every decade…. That’s why we have stupid parades stupid sexuality, stupid diseases, stupid war, stupid stupid stupid. I highly suggest you do some serious research and studying about the scripture since it is the most studied book on earth…. And get rid of your own ideas and start opening your eyes….. God wants you back with him. He wants everyone back with him., because they are all going down underneath the ground…. So he does not care about the pain and suffering down here as much as he cares about afterwards….. he made the Earth the way it is from day one… it’s not going to change. Also, the prophecies have all come true every single one over 3000 of them….. that’s undeniable. Including the prophecy of Israel….. and they will be attacked again because of their sin against God….. it’s all true. It is man’s fault for the cancer and the suffering it is man’s fault, we could have been perfect…. We could have had no suffering…. But stupidity and sin was chosen over God…. Just like you are choosing your own thoughts over what is obviously a better choice
No. I had no clue they would both fail. I’m old now, but I gave my marriage to the father of my five children my all, for 16 years, before I fled it in fear for my life. I had always thought everything was my fault because he, and everyone else, told me so, and I believed them because I did not know any better. I thought all marriages were work, so this was normal…no…Marriage can be hard, but it should not devour you. He treated me better than anyone ever had—until I became pregnant with our first child. Then I was shocked with what darkness had been hiding in him. That was his anchor point, and I had two miscarriages, and a stroke, alone, and kept secret—because if he knew I needed help, my life would get much worse.
For my second marriage of 10 years, I thought I knew what went wrong the first time around. But I was mistaken. I gave that my all, too. That was when I learned what really went wrong with the first one.
Forgive yourself for what you didn’t know, before you learned it.
“Love” is quite broad a term, in the English language, so people don’t know whether or not they have it. Narcissistic and abusive personalities mistake the strong desire *to possess* for love, because the feeling is so intense to them; compounding the matter, those who have never experienced love before mistake “being desired”, and the effort a predator will go to for their prize, for love. It can be a perfect storm.
Humility is a better indicator for a successful marriage—and since marriage is a two-way covenant, one person cannot bear the humility for both. If only one bears it, then it is not marriage, but servitude. Throw in trauma bonding, early childhood conditioning to people-pleasing, and gaslighting, and people can be trapped in a lifetime of servitude. That is a serious matter, in which beautiful souls can fade away just trying to survive.
My sister married an abusive jerk. The divorce was awful because he tried to financially ruin her. She left with nothing. She managed to double her income, buy a house, and make it. So what did she do? Marry an alcoholic. I’m so mad at her. She got upset at me because I refused to congratulate her. But after helping her leave the first d-bag, rebuild her life, and support a healthy life—I can’t be happy about it. They say you keep meeting the same people until you learn whatever lesson you need to learn. I suppose she hasn’t learned it yet.
I know how that goes and how incredibly frustrating it is watching someone you care about make the same mistake. Unfortunately we can’t force people to learn the obvious lessons (ha, although I wonder what obvious lessons people around me wished I would learn).
Don’t blame yourself. There was a person who loved an unlovable woman. Check the Book of Hosea. One can choose to love as our Lord Jesus Christ has loved and expected nothing in return. There is nothing wrong with that.
I wish you had just TOLD people who love you. This is the kind of story that illuminates how important it is to open up and let people help you in times of need
Grayson points to a very, very common trapping of males here, where it relates to protection (of her and his choice in her) and not wanting to be seen as that guy who balked at the alter or dumped her (loser/failure) - even though every cell in his body was saying, “do not do this”.
Of course, in hindsight we men see it and usually have the life experience to know we would make different choices, were we to face the same situation now.
This mental and emotional trap (self-inflicted) happens more times for men, than people know.
That really was part of it. Through it all I so desperately wanted things to work, and the only way that would be possible was if nobody else knew. It was kind of a double-whammy for my mental state. Live and learn I suppose.
I really get it. My first marriage I told my maid of honour that I really shouldn’t be getting married. She just told me it was nerves. I’d been feeling this way for a while and she was the only person I told. I just went with it as people had come half way across the world for our big day. I was 21 years old. My marriage ended 6 years later.
It’s such a tricky situation. Because that first wedding is something we can’t compare anything to, so we don’t know how we’re supposed to feel. Unfortunately, a gut feeling and nerves are so often confused for one another.
Ah, the taking responsibility for how others view her. i can relate to that and also know it’s major BS. It’s far more respectful to let each person be responsible for how they are viewed.
You're right when you say we know inside. In your case you had a text read 2 weeks prior
In my case it was just a feeling but it was right.
I've since re married and indeed, this second time the feeling was much different. Actually no feeling at all: just peace and enjoyment in her company.(We're happily married for several years now)
I was a divorce lawyer for 29 years. I can tell you many people who divorce knew when they walked up that aisle that they shouldn’t be getting married to that person. For most, the thought of stopping the wedding seems too overwhelming because of the costs of wedding already incurred, the idea they will be disappointing their family and friends and they are embarrassed and confused about marrying a person they know in their heart was not right for them.
Ugh - sad to hear that this is a somewhat common occurrence. Glad I’ve never been in the situation, but perhaps it would be good to let people know that I might have some influence over that it is ok to call things off if needed.
That takes some writing. Hits a nerve. You've clearly been through the refining process, and you're stronger for it. That's hard, man. Hope you have plenty of friends around you who believe in you and build you up J
At the time I did. Though admittedly I often separated myself from people. Struggled being around close friends because I hated feeling pity. That led to a whole slew of other issues. Thankfully all of that is long enough in the past.
Nowhere in this piece did Mr. Ferguson blame anyone, not even his fiancée! Reminds me of my own story, married him at 19 (duh!), stayed married 5 years (again duh!). Divorced for 4 years and remarried him at 28 (WTH was I thinking?), but the night before our wedding, he told me that he had been fired! Now a big reason that we divorced to begun with was he wouldn’t work! He was reliving his glory days from high school and didn’t feel the need to work, he had me! But even though he was honest about losing his job, I thought, he’ll another one. NOT! Even though God gave me big signs like “BRIDGE OUT”, “TURN AROUND, “DETOUR AHEAD”, I kept driving! Four years later, we divorced , I was 32, he was 33 and he married an 18 year old and promptly had 3 children!
But the wonderful thing is I met and married a wonderful man, had a fantastic son and now a grandchild! We’ve been married 37 years! I’d say that I finally got it right!
So Greyson, hang in there if you’re still single! You’ll get it right too!
I’m sorry for all these negative comments and want to say I totally understand how you could have convinced yourself to believe what you wished was true rather than facing the cold hard facts.
My knee-jerk response to being proposed to in public was “No-no-no-no-no! Get up! Get up!” And when he refused to get up until I “answered” (even though I had), I said “OK, yes… just please get up!”
We were engaged 3 years. I kept putting off the planning… broke off the relationship once for a week, but his threats of suicide and promise to change brought me back. I even booked a venue, but still couldn’t bring myself to plan the rest. I had a dream that I was at the altar and my mom whispered to me “You know, it’s not too late to turn back.”
I knew.
Finally, I left at daybreak after a typical night of his drunken and emotionally abusive tirades turned physical. I felt like I’d come within an inch of my life and was finally faced with the truth. I couldn’t deny it after that.
I could have prevented so much suffering if I’d come to the conclusion sooner, sure. But I learned the lesson the way I needed to, to make sure it stuck. I have nothing but compassion for the version of myself that didn’t listen. I hope you have it for yourself too.
My husband felt this with his daughter’s mom. He described it as God yelling in his ear not to marry her. He continued forward, and it was the most hellish 18 years. Thank you for sharing this. Great writing. ✍️
Or sometimes not knowing it’s as bad as it is. I just assumed marriage was supposed to be mostly hard work and little satisfaction. I didn’t know it could have been rich and deep and fulfilling with the right person.
I didn’t either!! I thought, mistakenly, that marriage was supposed to be “hard.”
No, being married to the right person for you isn’t hard. Love is a choice, but it’s an easy one when it’s the right marriage. 🥰 I learned this when I got married to my forever sweetheart in 2022. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good for you, Lindsay! 💗 I haven’t tried again, and probably won’t. I keep discovering more of myself that had been buried under the thumb of a narcissist- and I’m enjoying this journey on my own.
I could have written the same story - twice. However, I would have mixed in more self-loathing and alcohol. Thanks for opening up. I thought I was the only one who knew that my marriages were doomed to fail on my wedding day.
My first husband and I drove away from the reception and then he abruptly pulled over at a scenic overlook (we were in the blue ridge mountains) and we stared at the sunset before he spoke and said, “We fucked up, didn’t we?” and I nodded. We were super young- 20 & 21- and highly pressured by both our parents to not “embarrass them” and their lengthy guest lists when both of us expressed hesitation. So we wed anyway. The separation came only two years later. People can only be forced into something for so long.
Gosh Grayson, thank you for sharing. I felt your raw emotion throughout this piece in spades. Sending a gentle hug over the ether for what you’ve been through.
You reminded me of my wedding day; I don’t think I knew, that day, that my marriage was the wrong decision for me. But I probably knew when he proposed years earlier, and I felt light-headed. And I probably knew the night before the wedding, when I couldn’t sleep a wink. I put it down to jitters, like you, but on reflection it was likely my intuition screaming to be heard that this wasn’t the right way to be in a relationship with this very kind, loving man who is completely different to me. We made it work for a while, and we were definitely happy, but the truth emerges in the end, I think.
I applaud your courage in sharing your story. I’m grateful for it. Certainly my goal is to be a truth-teller, like you. I will subscribe to your posts with interest 🙏🏻
Our emotions sure are difficult to read…at least in these one-off events. I know I just kind of convinced myself everything was normal and as it should be. I guess all we can do is to try and learn from it (ha, though these are lessons I’d rather not have to learn)..
Yep, I can totally relate & beat myself up almost DAILY for marrying someone who I knew was wrong but thought somehow it could work & tried to make it work for 27 long years - even had kids (2) together after 13 years mid-way …he divorced us & probably best thing; yet, my kids took it hard especially when he started to date girls their age. Today he is alone & same miserable person & the kids & I just try to avoid talking about him because he never supports or speaks to us. Yes, go with your gut & don’t compromise or believe things can just work out. Lastly, know that hurting people- HURT PEOPLE.
If I had found out my wife (to whom I’ve been married for over 30 years now) was screwing another guy two weeks before our wedding, there is literally nothing in the world short of threat of deadly force that could have gotten me to marry her. Seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
Trust me. I’m not blaming anyone other than myself. Just opening up.
I’m sorry you went through this. Thank you so much for sharing. I want so much to be married, but I’ve worried that I have kept my standards too high. I always believe that everyone else who is married is happy and all of us single people are in pain. But sometimes things are not what they look like. I really appreciate you opening up and I am sorry someone commented to make you feel bad for sharing your story. This was brave and helpful. ♥️
At one time I felt I was missing out on wedded bliss, but not now at age 83, i see singleness as a gift. I have written a story about my struggle which I will post one day soon.
I can definitely attest that not every married person is happy (all the time). There’s pros and cons in both marriage and non- marriage. My husband and I both, regularly, miss being single. Marriage has been so much harder than we thought. But, also, we continue to grow and evolve. We keep trying.
Thank you for sharing this with me, Lydia 🙂 I was having a sad day today, so having a reminder that I should endeavor to find the good in my singleness is very helpful.
Greyson, never-mind any thoughtless self-centered comments from those who cannot appreciate the vulnerability of sharing your situation. I was married for 30+ years and, although for different reasons, had similar thoughts as I approached the altar on my wedding day. Life is all at once hard and wonderful, if you are lucky enough to learn from all of its experiences. I have and this chapter of my life is better for it.
Hey Anne. Thanks for the kind words. But no worries, I’ve been around the writing block a while. After receiving death threats from people following a Medium article about personal stuff, I’m pretty familiar with how some will spout off less than desirable comments.
People are awful, and it's often the worst of them who are the loudest, but for every one of them there are at least a few quiet admirers of your vulnerability. It's not easy to be vulnerable on the internet, but it helps pave the path for the rest of us to be more open.
I am lucky. I have never had a single moment of doubt. Married 40 years. I wish you the same joy.
Same, Anne. I cried all night before the wedding, knowing it was a mistake, but not having the guts to say so. We lasted 35 years, but they weren’t always happy ones.
Greyson, your openness is relatable. Someone jumping down your throat for being vulnerable isn’t acceptable, and I apologize for him and all those who liked his comment.
I remember my BIL asking me for marital advice when he was going to marry my sister. Sacrifice was the first word that came to my mind as you must be willing to give up certain parts of yourself in order to have a successful long term marriage. People might argue with me but marriage and parenting requires maturity along with sacrifice you can no longer put yourself ahead of others and must determine how to lead a family. I had a bad role model as my father cheated and was an alcoholic who died at 61, great dad horrible husband. I am doing my best to be a good husband, father, son , brother that can be relied upon like a trustworthy person willing to sacrifice for the greater good of the family.
Your agony in those moments. I relieved the journey with you.
Re-lived
Same
Bless you,and thanks....it's a story that no man wishes to write....I share this boat with you,currently.It has pushed me closer to the Lord,and her further away...there are some days where the chasm is a crack,others where you cannot see the other side.....she laughs and scoffs at me for NOT believing the same BS everybody else does....for me being me essentially.....I wonder why she married me....she would wonder the same thing......if she CARED!....LOL
Thanks
Be Blessed...
If you at a Catholic; I hope you are able to speak with a solid priest. I can imagine that it felt like a public event for which you would have a public humiliation, so you felt trapped. Looking back you must think you should have stopped before you had gotten that far. I don’t believe in divorce, and you did have solid evidence to stop the marriage. That being said, turn to God, ask for the strength needed to know what to do.
God is most definitely in my life though not a Catholic.You are right,should have put a stop a long time ago...haven't walked away because of Him,and in spite of her?.....no,not spite....though one can walk away mentally,I refuse to walk away ....I made an oath,I have quit too many times in my life and refuse to do so now,as difficult as it can be at times ....God has graced me with an ability to be self-aware and that's something one can work with,instead of blaming...if I said I haven't learned a GREAT DEAL from all of this,that would be a lie......I have been blessed while stressed!......
Thank you so much for your response,I have been amazed at how many I have got from this one comment...seems to have long legs....if people find solace and comradery in those few words...I have been truly blessed AGAIN!....
Thanks again,be Blessed!....
and it took guts to admit that and share it with others! i applaude you, im tired of people judging others so harshly without any empathy.
How is it going with her so far? I recommend making contingency plans, in case she drops the hammer, accuses you of domestic violence, kicks you out of the house without due process of law, etc. I recommend getting with a men's advocacy organization such as National Coalition for Men (NCFM.org). They can help. Good luck.
What a vulnerable thing to write about. It’s incredibly generous of you. And who knows, maybe this helps other people to have the courage to face the truth. But I can only imagine the pressure one feels to go through with such a thing because as you so clearly state, everyone came from far and near to celebrate you.
Pete can really reas between the lines, huh?
Great writing. Hope you're doing better these days.
I understand … you *sort of* knew .. but no one knows 100% for sure. So with the financial and social inconvenience of canceling, you threw in on the side of, “Well maybe I’ll take the longshot chance”.
Didn't even read the story, but I'm glad I know to watch out when it is my time.
You are such a good man. He does NOT deserve your comment back to him.
Why? Did you have to? Are you an exhibitionist, getting off on self- exposure of your cowardice?
Well all the best. That is a tough one.
It’s very easy to have an opinion about a life you haven’t lived.
Bingo!
There is probably only one thing easier.
That is NOT to have an opinion about a life you haven’t lived.
What clown shit is this? So I cannot have a opinion about Hitler because I haven't lived his life? The author is brave enough to share his own life experience. The commenter might be wrong, might be right, but I don't see anything wrong with him sharing his opinion about the issue.
Whats wrong was this line "Seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself."
There was no reason for this attack. This kind of opinion is the kind that only speaks to the commenter as a flag that they should get to therapy (and I mean that). We are not entitled to make abusive comments on someone's random vulnerable post either because Hitler existed or just because it struck some sort of chord, potentially a feeling of fear.
There are definitely spaces for uncomfortable comments that some might take as personal attacks. There really was no justification for it here.
Pointing out that he chose to get married despite knowing that she was a ho is a personal attack?
I know multiple variations on this tale.
I knew the fire was hot yet I walked through it barefoot and somehow got burned 😱
"Pointing out that he chose to get married despite knowing that she was a ho is a personal attack?"
Yes. Not sure how you missed that memo, but, yes. Its a personal attack, not just on him but also wowza the misogyny.
So, a rational position on the ease of one thing as opposed to the ease of another thing is ‘Clown Shit’? Try Harder.
Wise
What made you so reflexively defensive that you thought the author was blaming anyone - himself or otherwise? We all have feelings that run quite a range when we read something, but you need to have some better discretion because your reply verges on shameful.
This right here.
Thanks for being so rude. My God, how do the rest of survive without your judgmental opinion? I'm shocked - SHOCKED, I tell you! - that the entire world manages to move on its axis without your permission!
You had a chance to show compassion. Or at least shut the fuck up. Instead, you chose to be a complete ass. If this is how you really are in real life, and not just some wimpy dickhead hiding behind your screen, I hope your wife managed to find actual love in the arms of someone else while insuring your pathetic self for millions.
Have a nice night. Sleep well.
He is sharing his own opinion, not a fact. There is no right or wrong to a opinion. I don't see why he can't share his opinion. I don't understand why there is a need to gatekeep. Going by your logic, then we just become a black mirror episode/world where everything can only be positive. Lmao.
Oh good Lord, being an adult in society should mean you understand where and when to say certain things. You can have an opinion, but if it’s bad and/or hurtful and you share it, you should expect to be called out.
I so adore this, Mindy. Bravo!
Thank you. You may be in a minority. 🙂
Next time try ensuring.
Yes. It might be hard to understand. As a woman who struggled a lot with a negative self view and who experienced some abusive relationships, I can see myself going through with a wedding in such circumstances. It’s really not hard for me to picture myself in that situation. Fortunately, I have been married for nearly 36 years to a kind, devoted man. Not that we haven’t had our problems. But my judgment was shit back in the day. I feel like I just got exceedingly lucky
That was the ENTIRE point of the article!! How could you have missed that?
It is so easy to judge something you have never lived. We are layered human with contradictions and I think there is nothing more genuine than being able to open up on that. It is beautiful to be able to transform your pain into something written. Not everyone has that talent nor sensibility and it shows.
Seriously, but at least he has the courage to admit he did it anyway.
What a terribly selfish comment you somehow felt justified to make to a man who made himself so vulnerable by sharing his painful story. No wonder it’s so hard for men to authentically speak.
I can understand the pressure of being ypung and family spending a lot of money to come to a wedding. I get why you felt you had to go through with it.
Very few would understand the pressure of being ypung.
I felt your pain. You deserved better. I hope you found/find it.
whoosh!
Harsh, even though true. The pressure builds. The planning, the expectations of others, the expense. One gets carried along in, what seems to be, an irresistible tide. In this instance a rip ride OP couldn't find an escape from.
My wedding day feelings were the same, but for different reasons. I was sobbing uncontrollably down the aisle. Everyone thought I must be overwhelmed by happiness. I wish I had been stronger. When people say, “I would never have done that,” shaming you, my answer is, “How do you know you wouldn’t have done that?” We are all capable of doing things out of alignment with who we truly are or what we say we value. It’s a matter of conditions at that moment in one’s life, inexperience, pressure and vulnerability.
oof, revealing the kind of guy you are, coming on to this very self introspective and vulnerable post with "Seriously, you have nobody to blame but yourself."
The internet has a fascinating way of getting people to reveal pieces of who they truly are. The projection of who you are (and not I don't mean regarding what you would choose) is thick and heavy.
Don't you think Greyson knows that, Pete? Don't you think his knowing adds to his pain?
I can understand the inertia and the feeling that it’s impossible to change course. This story should be read by every young person as a warning so they can be prepared to make good decisions when they’re hard.
How about that marriage was ordained by God it is a biblical thing. There was a time where people understood the marriage vows. Don’t get married, if you have doubts, because when you make that commitment, it is in front of God it is it to God it is before witnesses for better, or worse till death. That means as worse as it gets. Means when you make that commitment, you don’t break it because people should not break their word, regardless especially if it’s something like a marriage where it is a godly covenant. Peoples word should be worth every letter till death. Do you part that means till death you stay married even if you’re miserable and the marriage sucks it’s tough luck. The reason you’re getting married is to have children so they can grow up and understand how to keep their word how marriage is about more than just being happy. In fact, it doesn’t matter if you’re happy in your marriage, it matters that you keep the marriage and keep the vows. It’s actually more important to not break the marriage then it is about one’s happiness, because happiness ends anyway when people die. Life is fleeting. The only reason we had communities where everybody owned homes and property, and Kids were healthy and thriving. Not learning about sex in school not learning that we came from apes and social studies which came from dictators public school from Washington DC, which came from the Nazis fashion school systems…. All comes from not having biblical principles just like legal divorce in 1969… what an insane idea to have divorce lawyers and also the synagogues in church is going along with divorce. People are so concerned with themselves and their own happiness. It is self-centered narcissism on a magnitude so bad that you can see the hell on earth, that these lack of principles has caused. If you get married, you stay married, and you shut up about your own life and your own happiness and you work it out best you can. Or don’t get married. But when people say, I swear under God, I will stay married to you till death do we part for better or worse, you keep your word. How’s that for a reality. If things are bad, you don’t complain. How’s that for another reality stop complaining and stop thinking about yourself that’s the advice I gift to the world. And if you want to know the cause of most peoples, depression and anxiety, it is a perpetual thinking of oneself. The emotional support animal will do nothing, except for fill the body with all kinds of bacteria and airborne fecal matter which because of the influx of dogs from China and tens of millions of people now have pets in their house pregnant women breathing in airborne feces and urine all day kissing the dog, holding it in their arms, kissing the cat breathing in the litter box… of course that couldn’t be the cause of all the cancer is in 10 year olds, an explosion in down syndrome… of course not pets are healthy, says MSNBC and the medical community and Harvard studies which get billions from government subsidies. I could go on and on. But people who are concerned about their own, lives, their own happiness… that’s why we have kids that aren’t going to own any property there going to be on welfare because they’re going to be on medication with fake diagnosis is like bipolar disorder…. The removal of the Bible from the schools in the 60s is the cause of all this nonsense and insanity and self-centeredness. We need to put that book back into the kindergarten and every other school and start re-indoctrinating people and give them a modern history lesson on how the Democratic Party turned a Christian Judea nation into a socialist country full of sick kids who are now preaching to Congress that they demand to be called a different gender and have fake pronoun names and want to dress and act to show off their personal feelings… no regard for anyone else’s lives no regard for the Christians or the Jews or Israel, or the United States as a nation which by the way we can have one without the other… the founding fathers wrote extensively about Jesus Christ and why they used the Bible to form our documents… marriage comes from that… the original American marriage is what formed property ownership and communities with church is on the corner that everybody revered.. he caused prosperity, longevity, children’s health… the greatest wealth in the world, creating a country that became a super power in less than 200 years. God is at the core of everything, the Bible, the Old Testament and the new…. We need to get back to that kind of mindset, and we won’t be hearing about people concerned with their own happiness in their marriage…. No wonder we have men walking around with dogs in their arms instead of children nurturing animals instead of kids. Wake up America.
Ok, I agree with you Bud. That’s why young people need practice at making decisions before they are 25 years old. Decide to buy a car. Take a job. Dump a girlfriend. Those are all reversible decisions and mistakes are ok. Some young people are so sheltered that getting married is the first big decision of their lives and they freeze up like this poor guy
There was a time where it was a grave sin to have sex before marriage…. That’s why the government took the Bible out of the schools so they can create sexual generations that thought nothing about having girlfriends for years sleeping together and not having commitment it destroyed lives then when you had planned parenthood to take care of the pregnancies… won’t even get into with that dude to our girlfriends and also ask the guys…. We were baby boomers and man from the 70s to 90s…. The things we were doing led all the stuff you see today….. I’ve sense given myself to God and I am an advocate for biblical principles going back under years went over 90% of the country had the fear of God, and people like my parents got married before they had sex and that’s why they ended up with mansions at the beach, thriving families, you name it property ownership…. People cared more about others. My father cared more about us and my mom my mom cared more about my father and us more than her self self came last…. Others came first God came first that’s where it’s at.
Your parents generation ended up with mansions on the beach and thriving families because WWII forced the US to become a manufacturing powerhouse. Everything was still dirt cheap in this country but everyone had a good job and was able to afford that everything.
Your generation was able to take full advantage of the same economy without having to work for it at all. It wasn't the sex that ruined things. People have been having sex outside of marriage since the beginning of time. It's just more out in the open now. Laziness and selfishness from your generation is what brought us where we are today.
You can’t have successful people because of manufacturing boom, the people have to be in line with hard work, with marriage with owning property with biblical principles, these things are what caused our nation to even be able to go to war and support the war effort. You have to be blind, not to see the difference between the World War II veterans and what they were learning in school almost 96%. Plus. Believed in God. That’s why they won the war and we’re so tenacious and willing to sacrifice their lives and also way more healthier per capita., there was like less than 2% divorce in those families, and my generation was absolutely brutally destroyed from a school system that brought in sexualized teachers teaching us about sex, teaching us social studies, which was the socioeconomic policies of Soviet, Russia, and Nazi Germany minus the racism and bigotry, which was actually going on with fake riot because the government was burning down cities full of black wealthy people from 63 and the 70s… to think that we were forced to go into some kind of economic boom because of the war and that’s what gave my parents homeownership, is absurd. We only had the boom because almost the entire country was in line with biblical principles. They believed to wait to have sex before marriage. There was no such thing as planned parenthood. They passed legal divorce in 1969. Over 30% of the country got divorced. Within 10 years every kid was partying in those houses where there was no father. Girls were having sex in their bedrooms with their boyfriends because only the mother was home. There was no father in the house like me and my girlfriend and millions of other kids doing the same thing. When they got pregnant, we took them to Planned Parenthood. The generation was completely different in thinking behavior. And the church was at the corner of every community. Even the Jewish community, the synagogue, we said, the Pledge of Allegiance in the school to the biblical principles of the New Testament Jesus Christ in God we trust because it’s how our constitution, Bill of Rights and declaration of independence was framed. Everybody aligned with those principles until my generation., until the school system got rid of the parent teachers association, they removed the Bible in 63…. The reason my parents were successful is because of biblical principles in their lives like the rest of the homeowners in the country they believed in marriage between man and woman they didn’t believe in abortion they didn’t believe in sex before marriage. They thought that would hurt the children. And they were successful homeowners…. They would’ve been successful no matter if there was a war or not. The industrial revolution in the term of the century created so much wealth the building of the car, the first rubber tire, innovation, excellence competition all came from the church. There was no regulation to strangle businesses that came with the removal of the Bible with the EPA with fake Earth Day and climate science to get rid of the wealth at the same time, they sexualized students in school and offered us a way to abort our babies and that’s just the surface… and I could get into the economic boom of that manufacturing era in the 40s, in great detail. But that certainly isn’t the cause., because if they did that today, you have a bunch of kids that are obese sick mentally ill school shooters sexualized they don’t want to fight they don’t want to work. They don’t care about God they don’t believe in God. They talk about social constructs and being transgender…… your assessment is way off
You don’t believe. So you look at those things like it just so happens to be. There was a Church on every corner. Every two blocks had a church in our entire community and the next one over and the next one over almost all the way to New York City besides a couple poor areas… the black community across the lake was the most wealthiest in the world in less than 100 years… there was churches on every other block. The divorce rate was less than 2%. There was zero divorce in that city… you couldn’t find a single parent in 1969…. Divorce was unheard of in my community…. Nobody was having sex outside their marriage in my family. My mother and father did not…. When we heard of somebody that cheated on their wife and they got divorced the first time anybody ever heard of that was in the 70s… divorce wasn’t even legal until 1969…. Yes there’s people that cheat and lie…. They will pay the price for that. But whatever the United States did to become a super power it’s because God allowed it…. There were plenty of other nations that one wars., it had the same kind of money, in fact, we were in debt in the 1800s we had to rely on other countries that had way more money than us, more people, more power… so how is it we became that’s super power in less than 200 years? Your explanation is extremely superficial…. And the fact a lot of us we’re Blessed not having to work so hard it’s because everybody was worshiping God our parents were worshiping God… they had that fear… I never met anybody when I was a little kid that didn’t have some sort of belief… but by the time I was 13…. 15…. With the entire government against the church against the Bible, the public school was teaching, sex, education and evolution that we came from apes…. They relaxed all the drug laws they opened, rehabs for kids, and they started diagnosing everybody with illnesses….. you’re missing so many things that they did, including bureaucratic agencies that were designed to destroy the black communities, pin one race against the other… the government caused the racial riots… they created them…. They burned down Asbury park. New Jersey in 1970….. they burned Newark New Jersey in 1963.. I can get into so many details about who was involved… and he was involved with rebuilding Asbury park including some of my best friends and Johnny Cash and Billy Graham… until the FBI came after them… bankrupted my friends family in the 90s and warren Buffett Chris Christie’s family and others turned Asbury park into a sexual community…. Johnny Cash, Billy Graham and Henry Vaccaro sr we’re going to bring back those black communities bring back the churches to Asbury park… Johnny Cash gave his life to Jesus Christ before he died. He was best friends with these people, Mr. vaccaro… even wrote a book called Johnny Cash is my friend…. I also believe that the divorce in some of these families was why the FBI and other horrible things came against a lot of families and a lot of families lost wealth… the prosperity we saw in the 40s and 50s… started being taken away, because people started moving away from God…. Yes, there’s been prostitution for thousands of years…. But the people that believed in God that repented from sin…. Had places of worship, and also worshiped in their home, raised their kids to have that fear of God that God is real…. There is no doubt that God blessed these communities…. He also allowed Israel to become the most powerful state in that region in less than 100 years, which was also prophesied about….. and then prophecy came true. Israel will also be attacked again because they have moved away from God and they don’t believe in Jesus…. They have sexual parades just like the United States… and you can see the results, sexualization of children, suicide mass murders… even natural disasters, are part of the sin of man…. You don’t have to believe it…. But I always tell people if I’m wrong? I just gave up a lot of things that I believe are no good and I love somebody that isn’t there.? that’s not so bad if I’m wrong. But if you’re wrong and you don’t believe that, Jesus is God and you don’t get in line…. Imagine that horrific mistake. Imagine if you’re wrong what an absolutely horrific gamble that would be? Or you would be taken down to a horrible place when you pop out of your body… when the body dies something pops out and that is the person you actually are. I experienced this firsthand in 1998. I saw what happens when we die. It is horrific., and there is a place that we can get taken up to… I can share more… I have audio on it on my Instagram and also Jessica Reed Kraus has been publishing some of my stuff on her platform. She is somebody that God sent after I asked him to send someone with a platform to put my voice on it. She showed up 24 hours later and recorded me at UCLA last spring. She wrote about this also in her top 20 things of the year, you can read that on her Substack here houseinhabit it says meet bud seigel I am number six on her list….. God uses all kinds of people… even people who don’t believe because we all have time and some people are coming to him and some people won’t…. I can definitely say most people are not going to make it and they are going to be stuck in this horrific place after they die. Again, if you’re wrong and you don’t believe that is a foolish and crazy gamble. But if I’m wrong for believing.? How could that be bad at all? I just don’t behave like I used to. I don’t speak like I used to and my focus is on something else. Other than myself that’s for sure it’s on God it’s on other people…. And then I’m last on that list…. My pleasure means nothing to me because I know what lies ahead…. And that in itself gives me more pleasure than I’ve ever had in my life and I used to have a lot of it like I lived the life most men dream of living for decades I’ve had it all…. I know now that it was nothing. I had zero…. What I have today is eternal. I’m telling you I saw this by self I can give you more details but I am exhausted and I’m going to have some coffee and go relax for a while.
There was no divorce back then because societal norms, and your church, said that women should simply accept abuse, whether it be physical, mental, emotional. As you said yourself, divorce wasn't even legal. Men still slept around, and their wives had to accept that too. It was all swept under rugs and behind closed doors. Just as the child abuse which ran rampant in the Catholic Church (and likely others) was.
If I ever meet a woman who even starts to lecture me like this she's going on my Do Not Call list.
Amen brother
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TLDR, Bud. But it helped me appreciate why youth don’t want to listen to us older folks. Obviously doing most/many relationship things unwisely before deciding to enter a marriage relationship doesn’t bode well for the marriage.
TLDR. You’re probably a lot of fun at parties
What’s so great about parties… or fun?
To me God is a story.
Bud, oh wow. What makes you think all this misanthropic garbage you're dumping here is a gift to the world?
I grew up in exactly the kind of toxic environment you describe here. Well, it wasn't quite that bad, it was "only" Catholic, but it was bad enough. An environment that declared all joy to be a sin, that turned everything Jesus Christ would have said - had he really existed - into the opposite. What distinguishes radical religious extremists like you from radical Islamists? This kind of worldview has brought so much suffering to humanity. It is a root of all evil that is obviously doomed to failure if it is eradicated. It is the programming error left by our creators so that the reset can always restart the simulation with these parameters.
Face it: your God does not exist. He's in your head to keep people like you from understanding what's going on. That we are all just part of a simulation that starts over and over again to see what form of religious perversion it will produce this time. Our prophet Nick Bostrom, the one true prophet, can open our eyes, including your brother. I pray for you that you will be delivered from your childish faith that obscures everything and taste the fruit of knowledge. You are digital. We all are. And the best thing we can do is to live anyway and stop stealing the happiness of others. Amen.
So sorry you had such a bad Catholic experience I can’t help but wonder it would have been sane no matter what religion you were raised in. Some parents are religious zealots no matter the religion.
Don't believe I said anything about Catholicism (probably because I'm not Catholic). Religion has nothing to do with how all of this went.
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I would also love to hear what you base your knowledge on your faith or this prophet… what is it found it on? And that we are all digital? The only thing that made sense is what you got from the Catholic Church, which I would say is correct…. But I base my knowledge not only in thousands of prophecies, 40 authors 66 books, but besides all that the historical scientific obvious truth of this world and the people and the nations and what has happened to everybody it is all written already…. But it is all beast to me on what I saw firsthand. I died, and I popped out of my body and I was more lives than then. I am now. The only thing that even comes close to describing what happened to me is in those Bibles…. And the problem with people is their stupidity and ignorance, and not studying everything that is out there and also putting the lens on history….. look at the nations that perished the people that suffer … and the Nation of Islam that got nowhere ever so there is no comparison to what I believe and people that are Muslim. It is the polar opposite….. but I could get into the weeds of just scientific and historical facts and also the symbiotic relationships between plants animals, the Earth, the planets, the sun… a lot of things are in those books that are absolute scientific and historical. They have nothing to do with religion. But it’s all you’re giving me is what you feel is true without any foundation absolutely nothing. A word salad I would say with nothing to back it up. Not to mention you use the word amen which is Hebrew for truth., and if you use our calendar date 2025 like the whole world, does that also comes from the Bible the year of our lord 2025 they are not talking about some other prophet, or anybody else, but Jesus Christ the most powerful dollar on earth, has a Christian on the front George Washington, who wrote extensively about Jesus Christ the most exotic names on earth in music like Bob Marley and Johnny Cash gave their lives to Jesus Christ, Steve, McQueen, same thing… ben Franklin is on the hundred… it says his name will be known or through those books even the Old Testament that points to Jesus Christ all over the place, including Isaiah 700 years before Jesus was born…. There have been so many people trying to prove books wrong that after their intense research for years, every one of them gave their lives to Jesus because they said it was almost impossible not to believe…. And people who truly believe in Jesus Christ are not religious people they are loving, and they believe in getting rid of the sin whether it’s speech, foul language, judgment of others, giving away money instead of hoarding it not being greedy, not having sex outside of marriage, not being sensual, not flirting, not fantasizing, not making any kids stumble with any kind of drink or smoking that would harm them…. It is getting rid of everything that is wrong and evil in the mind and body in this world, so that that Crystaline tornado opens up and takes us back to where we were created…. And if anyone thinks this is a true, and they take the gamble to go any other way….. that would be a huge mistake because it is a horrific place that demons take that thing down that pops out if that tube does not open up… I’ve never been religious. I was in the synagogue…. He served me nothing. The Catholic Church did nothing for anybody I know, except for some of my friends, who were abused by priests and going into confession booth, and things like that, which are against the god of Judea and Jesus Christ…. And you will see the prophecy fill out in Israel, because they are sinning against God and they will be attacked again and then they will cry out to Jesus all the Jews and all the people in the world, including the Muslims and the Catholics they were all turned to Jesus Christ because he is real, and I saw him in the clouds with a twin, which definitely is his father, the two of them….. I saw this and there’s no way I would ever take the risk of going against what I saw with my own eyes especially since I read it years later in the scripture….. the things you’re saying are of this world they are of man some profit guy? There is hardly a profit in this world today, and it says there will be none after the profits that already prophesies except there are prophetesses who can have visions with certain people, but they cannot prophesies about an entire religion or an entire sector of people, or they will be false prophets, and it says beware of those people. Especially since the word of Jesus Christ is mostly about warning of hell and get rid of sin…. That is not getting rid of pleasure. There is so much pleasure in this world we are enjoying, and that is not sinful. Nobody ever told me, including god, or gods word that I should not enjoy all kinds of things as almost everything is given to us by God that is created. Enjoying sex outside of the marriage is devastating. Look at our communities today from the 70s everybody was having sex without being married and look what happened. The proof is so obvious only a fool would not believe. And I pray everybody get in line because it cannot hurt and it will profit. Pun intended.
Thanks for being so open and passionate with your thoughts. I want to take a minute to respond to a few key points you made.
First off, let’s talk about the word “radical.” It means “from the root,” and I think you’d agree that your beliefs are rooted in some pretty radical ideas. You've based them on the Bible, which is undeniably a cornerstone of Western civilization. But here’s the thing: “radical” also suggests being extreme and uncompromising, and your views definitely fit that bill. The way you present your beliefs doesn’t leave much room for other perspectives, which is why I’d call them radical.
Now, I won't touch on your near-death experience; that's a deeply personal thing, and I respect that. But I don’t think such an experience can be a universal standard for judging others' lives or beliefs. You might say these judgments come from God, but at the end of the day, that’s still your take on what God has revealed to you through scripture or your experiences. And this is where we part ways: I completely reject—radically, if you will—the idea of sin. To me, it often serves as a tool to control behavior, sometimes for good, but often to stifle what’s natural and even beautiful. I believe people should decide for themselves how to live, not based on what some supposed prophet or divine figure says is right or wrong.
The problem with your conviction is that it overreaches. It tries to take authority over others’ choices based on personal revelations or interpretations of scripture. While I fully respect that these beliefs are meaningful to you, they can’t be forced on everyone else as universal truths. Your strong sense of right and wrong works for your life, but it doesn’t take into account the rich diversity of human experience and belief.
Speaking of beliefs, you mentioned “prophet” Nick Bostrom, a philosopher known for the Simulation Hypothesis. Basically, he suggests that our reality could be an artificial simulation created by some advanced civilization. Here’s the gist: If technology keeps advancing at this crazy pace, future civilizations might be able to create hyper-realistic simulations that are indistinguishable from reality. If that’s possible, then statistically, we might already be living in one of those simulations instead of what we call “base reality.”
Now, like any belief system—including Christianity—this hypothesis can’t be proven without some revelation (in this case, evidence from the creators of the simulation). So, it’s not science, but more philosophy mixed with speculation. However, it does spark fascinating questions about existence and consciousness without needing to cling to traditional religious frameworks.
I grew up questioning religious authority from a young age—especially Christianity—and I’ve never really resolved those doubts. While I see how important faith can be for others, I’ve always struggled with its claim to absolute truth. To me, faith is personal and subjective; it can guide people but shouldn’t dictate universal laws or morals.
I respect that your beliefs are central to who you are, but they aren’t universal truths—they’re your truths. Just like you feel the need to share your beliefs about Jesus Christ, others feel just as strongly about exploring different paths—whether through science, philosophy, or other spiritual traditions. The beauty of being human lies in our diversity of thought and experience.
You first need to learn the definition of radical. And you totally contradicted yourself by saying that the Bible is the cornerstone of western civilization, that would be the opposite of anything radical, as civilization is the opposite of radical. And again radical does not mean root, not even remotely. It means far reaching, a thorough and fundamental change, and the only person who could say the Bible would be radical, are murderers, rapists, pediphiles, and then, yes, the ideas in the Bible would be very radicals to somebody like a child molester, because the Bible is about redemption, decency, purity, living without sin,…Things that benefit children, create great lasting marriage between men and women, it’s full of healthy principles that prosper entire communities , full of accurate history, science, mathematics, everything good that has created the only civilized decent societies in the world…. The only free people on earth the healthiest the happiest…. The opposite of anything radical….. I would say the Shiite Muslim is radical, people who oppress their women I would even say the orthodox Jew is radical… going by the mosaic law, because the Bible actually teaches, the law was given as a punishment…. But most people don’t understand their own book….. you have to study in order to even know what you’re talking about…. And I would get a dictionary and look up some words I would start with the word root….. and then look up the word understand. Then I would actually the Torah then I would read the other 34 books of the Old Testament, then I would read the entire new testament, which is 27 books… I would also read the Quran, the Kabbalah I would learn about Krishna jihad I would learn about other nations, radical ideas, and how they affected the masses of people….. then I’ll be able to have an intelligent conversation about these things.
Let's examine the concept of “radical” carefully. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, radical is directly “relating to, or going to the root or fundament” and originates from the Latin word “radix”. Your assertion that “radical does not mean root, not even remotely” is therefore incorrect.
Your stance exhibits the very characteristics of radicalism you criticize in others. Proverbs 16:18 states clearly “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall”. Similarly, Proverbs 29:23 emphasizes that “A man's pride shall bring him low: but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit”
Your approach parallels what you criticize in other religious extremists—claiming exclusive access to truth while dismissing others‘ perspectives. You advocate for studying various religious texts, yet your statements suggest you’ve already concluded that only your interpretation is valid. This mirrors the very fundamentalist thinking you criticize in “Shiite Muslims” and “orthodox Jews.”
The irony is that your position represents exactly what “radical” means in contemporary usage: “extreme” and “far—reaching”. By insisting that your interpretation alone represents “everything good that has created the only civilized decent societies,” you demonstrate the kind of uncompromising stance characteristic of religious extremism.
Religion is a sin…. The Catholic Church is not biblical…. Radical.? The only radical thing I ever knew was killer waves, and when I used to skate pools that was radical…. And I have great joy in all kinds of pleasures on this earth, because they are of god like sports love food even making money if I do the right thing with it and don’t love the money and just enjoy it…. The things you’ve learned sound like radical religious extreme craziness… I would’ve gotten out of the church as I’ve left churches and synagogues because they are dead or they teach really ridiculous things that don’t match up with the Bible certainly not with God or Jesus Christ… not to mention I died in 1998 and popped out of my body and I saw things that are in the Bible and without a doubt Jesus Christ is going to be judging everybody with his father. They are twins something pops out of the body it will either get taken down and then someday up into the clouds for that judgment. Those are the two places I saw. I didn’t know what that was until seven years ago when I started reading these things…. And I am not part of a church or any religious group because God and the Word of Jesus Christ is not religion. It is against religious belief or religious works…. I am far from a radical I’m normal and have rational thinking… and I certainly don’t call people radical whatever’s after reading some things they wrote, but I would say, if you believe that this to be true with me, you have been tight some things I would not pay attention to….
You realize that more than a few marriages have no mention of the skygod and live happily ever after. If you believe that god is omniscient , all loving and all knowing, then it stands to reason that he intentionally allows all the pain and suffering in the world. This monster could easily end childhood cancer, but chooses not to, yet u praise him. He knows exactly what everyone’s future holds , thereby nullifying the idea of free will. I know, the lord works in mysterious ways and it’s not for we mere peons to understand his intent. Blah, blah, blah. Religious zealotry is a pox on the land
You have to study scripture in depth… it’s a never ending study, but it is absolutely true. We are a fallen people…. The cancer is because of peoples sin…. Everybody wants God to be the way they want God to be…. But when you’re talking about somebody who actually created all the universe, all the worlds, human, DNA, actually made the first body from carbon and nitrogen from the ground…. And when you look at every symbiotic relationship between plant and animal air water earth…. Nothing could be random. And God made us and had given us a commandment that we broke… ever since then the body has been dying earlier, getting tumors… look at the sin of man… and then the sinful man wants to make judgments about what God should, or shouldn’t do? We had free will…. And we’ve been blowing it from day one. And God does not care about anything, except for giving us the truth that there is a way out….. when the person dies the thing that God made inside of us pops out…. If it is not connected to God, there will be no portal opening up to take that thing back…. It has the personality The Voice, everything the person is to some extent pops out of the body. That thing does not have any cancer that thing lives forever that is not just a spirit it has weight, 21 g to be exact… there is so much proof, but man is ignorant and stupid… and he will suffer consequences for that stupidity. There are very few people who will be going back with God when they pop out of their body. If people don’t want to believe this…. What a huge gamble that would be. To go about life making decisions based on one’s own ideas…. And possibly risking eternal life down under the ground in some compression chamber that is horrific. God is not all about love and peace and the things people would like to believe…. God gave us one chance and we blew it. Then he gave us another chance by allowing us a way out of this hell of evil and wicked behavior, which causes cancer., causes war, rape murder, immoral sexuality…. It gets worse and worse as the decades go on, and people move further away from the word of God. You can call people zealots if they really believe., and that won’t change truth. Who says God has to be any certain way.? It tells you exactly what is what in these books… what is not explained, is not needed… nobody needs to know what they can’t figure out, because there is life after death, and it is very simple to live without sin, without lying without cheating, without anger, without resentment, without sex outside of marriage, giving up worldly pleasures, and understanding God works in this particular way it is already set…. If somebody doesn’t believe us and they are wrong.? Think of that gamble… how foolish that would be. If I’m wrong? I did not gamble anything…. I gave up a lot of bad things and things that don’t profit. There is no profit in sexual pleasure…. Because it ends. There is no profit in lying or pornography or cheating., there is no profit for having a relationship with sex and no commitment of marriage, of those relationships are full of sin, there is no commitment, so there is the room for all kinds of obstacles, heartbreak, breaking up, no honoring of any commitment. So there is no real profit there., and we get old and die. So why would I gamble? It is only the non-believer that takes the biggest risk on earth…. Somebody who comes up with their own ideas about what God is or what should be. It is so simple to follow the law of God, which is not legalism. It is not Judaism, or even Christianity. The way people live their lives…. It is not religious., it is absolutely the law of nature just like we breathe out carbon dioxide and the plants breathe it in…. God made us a certain way with something inside that pops out when we die. It is that thing that pops out that we actually are, the outside body is made of carbon and nitrogen, it decays, it turns to carbon and hydrogen back into the ground as oil….. that’s why oil as mentioned almost 200 times in the Bible, that’s why it says something from the ground made Adam… in the Hebrew word Afar it means something deeper than dirt, dust, or mud, and Howard somebody thousands of years, know that? That it is something in the ground like oil? It’s because God was here, he did come down and dwell with the first people, but when they disobeyed, they caused sin, they poisoned this earth, poisoned man’s purity… and God could no longer dwell here….. he looks like us… now they are twins, Jesus and his father are twins… they will be judging every human being on earth after death. I actually saw these two, in 1998 when I died, and I popped out of my body at a party in New York City. It’s a long story, but I got taken down for a second to that place that’s described as Hades…. It’s a place of torment like a holding place. It was horrific pitch black, and it felt like I was being squeezed. A Crystaline tube opened up a tornado and it sucked me up into the clouds where I saw these twins. There is a lot more to it. But I can assure you this was no vision., it was no outer body experience like people talk about. I was more alive outside of my body that I am today. Anyone who doesn’t believe he’s taking the worst gamble… and if people just take a look at how stupid our society is as a whole, how ignorant and utterly foolish, the human being is… one has to look at their own ideas and realize they know nothing, and true wisdom, and truth comes from the fear that what I’m telling you could be true. And if it is true., nobody should gamble anything on this earth like I said that has no real value. If there’s even a slight possibility that I’m telling you the truth…. How foolish would it be to not believe? Because believing could never be foolish… giving up the worst things, giving up things that do not profit humanity, could never be foolish. But having one’s own ideas about biblical things, denying that God is what it says in the book? And then risking maybe being taken down to that horrific place? It actually says in the Bible only a fool would not believe. And one more time., if I’m wrong? No big deal. But if you’re wrong and you don’t believe this.? That is beyond a mistake… one cannot fathom that kind of gamble and losing…..
Amen, and...
Once the church began to talk in cold arms-length terms about "Christian principles" and "Judeo-Christian" institutions as epitome expressions of who our Lord is and what He came to do (glorify God and cause us to enjoy Him in intimate fellowship, forever) thinking that if we just got those gifts of His back, we would be happy, she was already well down the road toward the same sort of divorce-ready estrangement our host here captures in such painfully poignant literary detail.
The true church (born-again, i.e., Holy-Spirit regenerate, Christ-trusters in all times and places--the holy bride/body of Christ ) appreciates those gifts. We feel pain at their loss; no question. But above all, her/our eyes are submissively fixed on her/our beloved as a personal living being, expressed in His word, revealed by His Holy Spirit.
"This is eternal life, that they may KNOW You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (John 17:3) "Know" here is a spiritual stand-in for the intimacy reserved for man and wife, with the ultimate meaning and purpose of marriage being His glory and exaltation.
I would even say if you really want to understand why radical is actually used in the modern day to describe the worst people that want to destroy free societies like the Christian Judea foundational America, you can look at the mathematical radical symbol… it’s really what was used in a descriptive, drawing to show a severe angle….. but your definition of radix… goes along with ancient philosophers, ideas of the world being flat…. And they really have no meaning anymore….. like I said, just because you can correlate the word radical to a word like root…… what does that have to do with a radicalized person today? And the fact that high academia will point to radicalization as not being that bad as someone who just wants to fundamentally change a government drastically…. That is absolutely inaccurate… because we as a country want to drastically change Iran and a lot of Muslim countries who have been chilling, billions of people for centuries with their ideals, which are radical, that does not make us radicals. Only in the eyes of those few dictators who want to keep those people depressed so they can stay in power. Get your ideals in line, and enough with the nonsense…. People aren’t having it. And the only reason we have 4 billion people who have moved away from biblical principles in this world, is because of the loud radicals, and a evil cabal in the Democratic Party in the United States that had enough power to remove the Bibles from schools in the 60s, and over a 40 year period did astronomical damage to a huge population of people, and now you can see the global suffering, because if it… yes, we’ve always had suffering and poverty around the world….. but less than 80 years ago this country had over a 95% church going populous, with the same percentage of people, married without divorce. The black communities had less than 2% divorce…. The only radical idea came out of a democratic party that wanted to fundamentally change what was good…. The masses… the entire country became a super power in less than 200 years….. the masses, the people who thought like I do today….. we are the opposite of radical…. The polar opposite…. Only a small group of people who damage destroy, hate, and whose ideas have never had any value in society as a whole, those people are radical. Show me one group that thinks like me that ever tried to destroy or caused such devastation like the leaders of Iran or India, or China or North Korea or Hugo Chavez Mao, Vladimir Lenin, Adolf Hitler….. he believed in the public school system, so did Vladimir Lenin they were radical….. he did not share the same values or principles as billions of other people that did not want those things in their lives. At the route of what these guys were about, certainly was not at the root foundation of biblical principles that created Israel to be the most powerful in the region in less than 100 years with the smallest army man for man being the most powerful… and billions of people around the world are in line with those principles…. Not the other way around. People that want to destroy Israel are radicals…. They make up a very small amount of people. Because the proof is in history…. It’s in the masses….. I’ve never seen 5 billion radicals…. I’ve never seen 2.5 billion radicals in the world….. I’ve never seen a country where the populous is full of radicals…. Show me one…. Just show me one nation, whose populous is full of radicals, and don’t point to Gaza… because that was actually called Judea and Samaria… place as Gaza, until the PLO radical terrorist group was handed that land by the Israelis, which was a huge mistake….. you should check out your history along with root words
Bud, didn’t you say you were in a hurry to get somewhere?
So how do you know which parts of the Bible to take seriously and which parts, like the murder or the slavery or the laying with another man's wife, just for 3 examples, do you know to not take seriously? If it's ALL the word of God set down through man?
Willy, that is an excellent question. I would say you need to read a lot more than 3 or 4 verses of the Bible (plus have a mind/heart AT LEAST open to acknowledging you have a creator to which you are accountable) to gain understanding.
I can't vouch for (or recommend) Bud's (or my own) special experiences as the basis for proving the inerrancy and sufficiency of God's word, but rather point you to the one who claims to be its author and its "telos" (the point of it being revealed to us). In Luke 24:25-27 and 24:45+, Jesus claims to be the object of all the revelation in the 66 books by 40 authors. (That's not the only place such a claim is made for the scope and integrity and self-referential beauty and perfection of scripture, but it's one of the clearest in that it also highlights how fallen man, without regeneration by the Holy Spirit, will read it wrongly.)
So, just read it... as someone challenged me to do, even though, at first, I only wanted to read "the red letters".
Regarding your question/challenge about the stuff we tend to take to be self-evidently wrong, and trusting it to be an honest question (as it certainly was for me!!) I'll leave you with three things:
1) Indicatives are not imperatives; lots of things recorded in Scripture need to be differentiated from what pleases God. Once you see that every historical figure in Scripture other than Jesus was a lunkhead idiot sinner, just like you and me, hopeless without His grace, things get clearer.
2) To say that murder, man-stealing, adultery (or anything else) is wrong, one needs an authoritative place to stand: a firm law with a firm law-giver to back it up universally and not just in this or that culture, or b/c I said so, or feel so here in Western Civilization, grounded in Christian thought.
3) The Bible claims for itself that the Holy Spirit, who is fully God, guided and directed lunkhead idiot sinners to write exactly what He wished to have written, and also to preserve it and distribute it out into every language such that man is without excuse. That does not make the writers angelic; nor does it change the fact that each had his own unique style and emphasis. But what it does is to make the entirety of Scripture all of a piece--a beautiful, glorious, perfectly integrated text unlike any other (as a published author, I can say that with authority) that reveals man's ONLY means of being saved from God's judgment, in wrath: Christ Jesus, the singular long-promised Messiah-God-man.
That’s about correct….. my own experience first hand is just a first hand account of that plays Hades I saw it, myself, the place of torment before people get taken up for judgment. And the police in the clouds I gotta take it up in the Crystaline tube the tornado, I don’t know who else that could be…. Twins…. Floating in a box with white robes with the leaves around them…. Majestic, old men that I could describe in detail… and the person between them that I knew from earth I can only think that we will see somebody like that that was in our lives at a certain time or at the time of death…. As that person was actually in the room when I died…. And they said that they were there to protect me at that time…. Maybe the person was only there at that moment, because I wasn’t going to be judged I was going to live and I hadn’t condemned and stuck in that place under the ground…. I can only attest to what I saw…. And after reading scripture, and I agree with you and almost everything…. Everybody in the Old Testament is a sinner… especially the greatest figures like Moses… David, David is where we get the word pornography from porneo from him looking at Bathsheba… murderer, he was all kinds of bad things… we are a fallen people from the beginning… but I was just saying that what I saw could only be Jesus Christ and his father making that Bible, correct…. The studying of scripture… that’s just an ongoing daily thing that keeps revealing things that help with all that stupidity and sin that gets in the way of understanding it…. Some of the comments that people make… denouncing the Bible, rejecting it, or making fun of anybody who truly believes in Jesus…. I can only say that is a grave mistake… there is no doubt that every person that dies will find out that there’s something inside of them that pops out, they will be wide awake totally alive, wrap around them and take them down to eight pitch black horrific place and they will stay there completely awake in the dark probably screaming who knows….. and there’s no way out from what I believe. Unless somebody can scream in thrust upwards like I did and God will open that tornado and suck them up into the clouds… but from what I read that isn’t heaven… that’s the place people go for judgment after being taken up from Hades, and then it says they will be judged and thrown in the lake of fire. I didn’t see any of that stuff. I was allowed to see what I saw. And what other reason with God allow me to see something like that? Other than to warn others. That’s basically my job to help bring people to Jesus Christ… I study scripture to become more of an apologetic and figure out how to articulate and tell people that these things are true when they argue that man wrote the books, or Jesus was just a man, a good man, and he was not God… and all these other questions like why wouldn’t he just show himself today or, anybody could’ve just written the Bible because it wasn’t the original scripture. It was put together in 300 A.D. handed down from mostly witnesses and scriptures that were being taught in the churches…. So there’s a lot of prophecy, common sense… archaeological historical.. like when I learned about the apostles, and I believe they absolutely existed there’s enough evidence that they lived. I wondered why all of them would give their lives, and allow themselves to be tortured by the Romans, and not denounce Jesus, they would’ve all been enriched, because if they denounced Jesus, his followers would have also not believed in the Romans would have kept a lot of power that they were losing to the people who were following these apostles, and Jesus. But they gave their lives. You couldn’t find 12 guys today to give their life even for Jesus…. A lot of people have doubt…. I wonder how many people in the church would never denounce, or reject Jesus, under torture and threat of life? A lot of people would reject Jesus to save their life. The fact that these guys did not, they saw Jesus alive after he died. That would be the only way they everyone of them would give their lives, and never reject Jesus. They absolutely saw him after they saw him die. They saw him alive. And that’s just one thing. I also say to anyone, that if I’m wrong about my belief, as Jesus is God, and there is life after this, if we give ourselves to him, and every day adhere to his word, love him with all our mind, body and soul, and have this truth for him in our heart getting rid of sin.. all of it, if I’m wrong… what harm does that do? But if the nonbeliever is wrong? If somebody is wrong about rejecting Jesus, and they say it’s all a bunch of bunk…. Imagine that mistake.? that’s why it says only a fool would not believe. It’s not even worth the gamble especially if there’s even an inkling of a chance that there could be eternal life forever somewhere? How could anybody not want to go that route? Especially when the things given up are really nothing that lasts like sex, money not that we have to be broke. It’s OK to have wealth…. Foul language, sexual thoughts, lust, anger, resentment, lies…giving up these things is good…I would choose believing and act accordingly. Plus..when someone truly believes…and the person changes because of that, the fear and love of God…. Miracles will be seen…. God will absolutely perform miracles to make the person even more convicted…. The believing causes God to perform things….. and there’s plenty of proof in the modern day of that… I have a plethora of things that God did for me that are absolutely hid Him, that in no way, could these things have been done without some insane super natural occurrence from something outside this world… like a total impossibility….. and this happens over and over. It is 100% because of my total, not just belief….. but a absolute knowing… I know Jesus Christ is God and God is listening to every word I say, he watches everything I do, and he’s absolutely performing these miracles that I’ve seen. Every day besides talking to him all day long….. I’m trying to find ways to bring my loved ones, friends, and anybody to Him… pointing to these books… from genesis to revelation I look at it as one book…. But there’s over 5 billion people from what I believe the reject this…. And we have a massive amount of people in this country laughing at it…. And I know that’s what it says… it says most people won’t make it. They will reject God. They will reject Jesus…. But I’m doing my best to give this word and point to the book, tell my story, and also point out a lot of proof… that the sin of man produces these horrible things that we see every day… the consequences of divorce, of resentment, of lying, of greed, there is a lot of proof that the Bible is correct. And I would say to a lot of these commenters that poke fun…. How foolish they are. Imagine if they’re wrong, and they die…. And then they find out that they’re going to be taken down to that place that I saw.? They were worshiping some other God or maybe no God, just loving sin, they love foul language they chose the F word instead of Jesus… they chose having sex with different partners without being married…. Going their own way, hating and resenting people, imagine when they find out that they were wrong… as time goes on, and I study scripture more and connect to God every day… these people sound more and more foolish and it is a scary thing to me… I look at my old behavior and I am so happy today that I know exactly what this life is about and that it is not with any of these people think… we are supposed to get out of here and there’s only One Way out after the body dies and that is to believe in Jesus Christ as our savior he is God he created us that thing inside of us that pops out. And one more thing…. Those tornadoes we see in the movies, and in Kansas in the Midwest….. those are signs of the thing that takes us up but it’s from another planet… it’s from some other place made out of material unseen on this earth… anyway I’m done. This was a little lengthy…..
So glad that you've become, but your own view, an authority on the best way for everyone to live their lives, regardless of what they may actually believe. It's really great for you.
I would’ve never taken any of it seriously but I died in 1998 and I popped out of my body at a party in New York City and I floated through a wall over first Avenue near Houston. Some thing wrapped around me and took me down to a dark pitch, blackness compression sort of chamber where it was painful for a second and I screamed and thrust it upward and a crystalline tornado appeared made out of the most brilliant material, and I shot through it like a bullet for about eight seconds into the clouds, and I saw two old men floating in a sort of wooden box, with white robes, woolly hair, giant eyes and someone I knew, standing sort of between them in front of them. They didn’t look happy, but the person said congratulations. When I said well, you would like some angel sent to protect us meaning me and my friends., the person said no, not us, you…. And you can go back now. I was back in my body in the weirdest way…. I thought it was some whacked out vision though it was more real than life that was 1998. Seven years ago I started reading the Old Testament and the new as one book…. There was no doubt in my mind. It was Jesus Christ and his father twins…. There are a lot of things in the Bible we could doubt… the fact that the new testament was written 300 years after the apostles were killed… by the way they were actually real people that gave their lives and could’ve had riches and homes if they just denied, Jesus was God, the Romans offered them everything, but they denied it and they were killed tortured. You couldn’t find 12 people to do that, unless they actually saw Jesus alive after he was dead. I wouldn’t worry about what’s not true. The fact that we pop out of our bodies when we’re dead and somehow God who created this thing inside of us, gave a lot of witnesses proof 40 authors, 66 books, both testaments over 3000 years written by people, all kinds of people many whom witnessed God… it is almost impossible that all these books would actually have the same thread, be perfectly in tune with each other…. There’s so much proof, scientifically, archaeological historical that it is beyond believe, including the fact that the first man, Adam and Eve Adam was made for something in the ground. Science proves that we are made out of carbon and nitrogen, and then, when we decay turns into carbon and hydrogen, which is a Oil…. 3000 prophecies have already come true perfectly…. I have a living testament that this is real. There are things that aren’t described because the actual scripture from the apostles is not in there it’s from witnesses… and 300 A.D. was when they put the Canon together people from all over the world kings scribes that were related to the people in the church is for hundreds of years were already putting these things together because the Whitney thing was handed down… whatever we can’t figure out, we will find out after we die. But make no mistake. Anybody who denies that this could be true think of the gamble? What sense would it make to choose pleasure in this life and things that are really not lasting and just get in line with what it says… if anybody finds out when it’s too late that that tube that tornado doesn’t open up that thing that pops out will live forever in some horrific place. That’s really the message. He talks about hell in the New Testament more than anything else because it’s a warning and also good news that we can get out of this life and the debt that is coming.. I have a lot more on it and some audios but I’m in a rush and please reach out to me. I want to tell you more. I have audio also and Jessica Reed Kraus has published my stuff. She showed up in my life for 24 hours after I asked God to send somebody with the big platform…. I never was on social media and my wife because I waited. I was also prophesies about why a rabbi in 2002 and a fortuneteller in 91one who told me all these things would happen…. Roseanne, Barr, Bon Jovi, and Kevin Aucoin. We’re also the other three that this fortuneteller prophesies about….. anybody who comes to me and he’s hearing this message I guarantee it has something to do with God and no doubt these things are true. There is heaven and hell…. I don’t even bother with the things that don’t make sense are the things I don’t believe that are totally correct or just not in the scripture. A lot of stuff is left out and that does not matter. What matters is there’s something inside of us that is not human and that has your voice and your mannerisms and when you dye it will pop out like that movie 21 g. I had friends in medical school in Italy. One of them said he seen these things pop out of somebody’s body and it’s true 21 g leaves the body as soon as you die. Anyway, God bless and I hope we keep in touch.
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And I can’t find that comment about your marriage failing, And something about your bride, But I do remember commenting on anybody’s marriage and their ideas of what they think marriage is and their sexual relations before marriage…. And most people just don’t think that it is their own fault for not believing in God not be believing that sex is for marriage only and you shouldn’t have sex before marriage and if you do, you will have nothing good in your life that you would have if you Obeyed the commandments of God. Half my generation is divorced everybody’s cheating lying. We all had sex with our girlfriend for years before we got married, thinking we could go on and have healthy marriages. Then people get divorced they blame each each other. The woman says her husband did this or that the man says the wife did this or that and guess what? Both parties are sick. The man is sick. The woman is sick. That’s why we have little boys turning into transsexuals. We have pornography in school. We’ve got foreign invasion We have people voting for him Communist socialist, Marxist, and fascist government, expanding insane evil people, Everybody’s bisexual bisexual we have kids screaming on college campuses death to Jews death to America. We have radical Islamic Senators, congressman and professors and doctors at universities who are teaching anti-American hatred and also Med schools teaching first year students to put little boys on hormones to have little girls cut their breasts off before puberty….. And it’s because we have people that believe they can do whatever they want they can have sex however they want they don’t have to be married they believe in divorce they believe in abortion… Every problem you have in this world is from sin from man being sinful and wicked and evil…. And if you have any problems in life, it’s probably your fault from the things you’ve done and consequences if your behavior your speech… Millions of things you’re not looking at. To God and repent for your sins and you feel remorse for what you’ve done…. That’s the best advice I can give
You should try making sense. Write something valid.. nothing worse than people writing stuff like you do like little kids who call each other names because they’re brains aren’t developed
And this is why I wish Substack had a laugh emoji.
Relax. Switch to decaf.
Just one more note. I always say this. If I am wrong in what I believe about the afterlife and it’s either that horrific place or we go up that tube. If I’m wrong… I just gave up a lot of bad things in my life and lived a way better and much more caring life towards others. But if somebody is wrong, and not believing? Imagine that gamble? If you’re wrong and not believing, that would be the most horrific mistake any human could ever make. The things someone Hass to do to get in line with God are actually good in general. They are just great things that do not harm anyone. In fact, they are good for other people also. If I’m wrong, it’s no big deal. But if the nonbeliever is wrong…. That’s a mistake that can’t be reversed, and it ends up to be a total eternity, wide, awake and alive, stuck in some horrific place. People should think about this. Especially since I’ve seen it firsthand. And I was a total nonbeliever my whole life until seven years ago.
You're absolutely right, Bud. You're saying what was also said by the great thinker Blaise Pascal--it's called Pascal's wager. I don't care if Christianity is 'a lie'--if it is, it's still a BETTER lie than the ones that guide most people. And you are also correct that the so-called 'sexual revolution' and its emphasis on personal happiness as the meaning of life has grossly damaged the world of relationships.
Almost brings tears to my eyes when I hear this from somebody because very few people are going to make it back after they die… it was beyond a realization for me, because when I started reading scripture seven years ago, it only took one line in first John in the New Testament before I went back and started reading from Genesis in the old, just one line about the word being spoken he was talking about Genesis. It all hit me. I knew Jesus Christ was God and the whole thing was real. And my entire life made total sense especially all the pleasures I’ve had every single thing I’ve ever looked at of beauty that I wanted. It came to me. Every accident I was saved from I was protected supernaturally. I already knew this from a young age. It was like I was in mortal and I knew it. The Judaism was all wrong. I thought Jesus was definitely not God….. I lived this very weird life where I just didn’t worry about any of it… I had serious understanding of the things I did wrong, but I didn’t hold guilt over it because I knew that was useless. I wasn’t one of those people who did drugs, and then had a downside., when I did something wrong like hurting someone’s feelings I usually never did that ever again those things I had some morals there… I had this weird thing all my life, and it was God. He allowed me to have all these pleasure is he allowed me to experience every kind of person on earth for a certain amount of decades, and then it was time for him to come down, and basically strip me of everything… and I even knew that’s what it was. When I was losing things when I was stuck in the desert when I lost my inheritance movie deals cars houses…. Laughing and crying at the same time because I knew I was gonna go through some major stuff and I knew it was God…. I did not know I was gonna end up with the New Testament and the old as one book and I certainly didn’t think it was going to be Jesus until I started reading and then that thing that happened to me in 1998….. the twins in the clouds, Jesus and his father. Whether I was allowed to see the vision of them, or it was actually them is irrelevant….. it was real. I was out of my body. My body was dead inside an apartment and I was outside over the street then I was underneath the ground. Then I went up a Crystaline tornado, and I saw those guys in the clouds. Now I know my only job is to have as many people here this as possible in the world. I can’t see any other reason why I would be allowed to see something like that. It’s definitely not for me alone. And all those people I’ve met through my life the thousands of people all those famous people hundreds of A-list actors and athletes in musicians all my friends I grew up with hundreds of them entire communities know who I am because I had that freedom to be everywhere every party, every restaurant, every café, every place during every holiday…. I didn’t really care about careers. Even when I got a three picture deal with Paramount I threw it all the way and ended up in the desert lost my inheritance. I had a broken flip-flop a Terry Mugler jacket brand new Ripcurl wetsuit no phone my car was hidden from loansharks. This was 2004… I knew the story was going to be so fantastic that once I got back on my feet, it was going to be worth something…. Like I was a little nuts to have that kind of attitude during such a insane loss….. my strength, Health I was an athlete for years, so I was able to survive grueling physical trials that most people would’ve not been able to handle I did it and really enjoyed it. I got into some of the loss I got into the suffering, looking at it like a fantastic chapter…. But this last seven years after realizing Jesus Christ as God wow what a bitter, sweet few years especially since everybody I’ve ever loved is not going to make it…. Family members my ex first love who is in contact with me today…. Man…. I feel like this is the only thing important in life is to have people understand that we pop out of our body and almost everybody will be taken down by these demons that are all over the ground. They are everywhere under the Earth above the Earth…. I’m even learning that there are tons of other human beings. On other planets just like us, but they are perfect in pristine. They are not fallen. They started out like Adam and Eve and they are perfect. They probably have been coming down here and checking us out like this UFO that hovering above me at the beach in 1978. From what I understand they can’t interact with us or they will be poisoned by our sin the demons here…. But they know that we’re here and they know that were suffering and we’re going to be in hell most of us. Every day I’m learning more and more about God and the universe and everything else that’s going on. I am not out of my mind at all…. I also prayed during my losses for wisdom, and not money, and not to regain anything…. I just asked for serious wisdom, and everything that God could give me about truth….. now I pray that other people will have changes of heart. The people that are supposed to help me message the world. I want them to come to me and bring whatever it is that I need to make this happen. God bless you and I pray God gives you the protection he has given me and gives you serious wisdom more every day, so not only do you see more truth, but you can articulate and find ways to guide people to this truth, and to make them fear and believe in God. :)
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Who said that going to church and saying you believe in God, and saying that you were a Christian means that you were living out a life in line with God? The church is dead full of ungodliness in the congregations. There’s hardly a person that goes to church on Sunday that is going to make it to where God wants him to go after death. The churches and even Christian radio stations talk about the blessing of divorce how the step father and stepmother is a godsend. It’s an abomination. I don’t project my beliefs on anything in some abstract way. I am strictly by the word of God. Divorce is evil, he has destroyed almost half the country’s families, it is evil, according to the word of God. The theology is completely against divorce. It’s against two kids having sex with each other and not being married. Almost every teenager Going to church is having sex with somebody and they are not married. Divorce is rampant, and pastors and even rabbis are helping couples divorce. I am a warrior against the idea of Christianity, making somebody godly, or even any kind of religious behavior, having anything to do with living, according to God’s word. It’s the acknowledgment that Jesus Christ is the messiah. He is God, and that fear of doing wrong, according to what God wants of us, and adhering and obeying, that makes somebody in line. Anything outside of that is ungodly behavior. There’s no difference between most church goers and the average club kid dressed as a different gender having all kinds of sexual partners. The person with the Bible with the cross around their neck going to church every Sunday means nothing… it’s not a reflection of anything, except for somebody who wants to have a little bit of God in your life and feel better about themselves, or maybe project an image to others, so they can feel better than others. I’ve done a lot of audio on how the churches are creating ungodly groups of people also being reformed, more concerned with having more people in the seats because pastors are now making a lot of money, and they owned property, their families are thriving on the money from the church. Churches were originally donated, the pastors were supported by charitable people, and for the most part, they were poor… they would not generate well for themselves in fear, it would reflect the wrong thing…. So much is rotten in this country…. And I don’t even consider myself Christian since I grew up in the synagogue, Christianity to me is religion, so is Judaism, it’s legalism it’s ritualistic…. Being in line with God should not have anything to do with the label it should have everything to do with Jesus and God, his father, and where we go after death. And that is something I’ve experienced first hand in 1998 when I died of an overdose in New York City. I popped out of my body and went through a wall over the street and I got taken down to a horrific place in pitch blackness painful, and then I got taken up some Crystaline tornado that opened up and sucked me into the clouds… I saw twins, to Majestic old men, floating in some kind of box with white robes leaves around them, and somebody between them I knew from earth. It’s a longer story., but today I absolutely no that was Jesus Christ and his father. A lot of it is described in the Bible. My entire behavior these days, including my speech is controlled basically by the fear of the knowledge of the truth of where we go, when we die. That is my message also to my old friends and to anybody I talked to…. One of our biggest problems in society in the world is religion, the separation of the church is the synagogues the mosques… everybody’s different ideas and behaviors…. It’s a mess. And our government has been tenacious since the 60s and making sure kids grow up without any biblical principles. They removed the Bibles from the schools, they want medication divorces abortions, sexuality, poverty, they don’t want any more children growing up to own private property. I can go on and on. But I will stop here. :)
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…. That does not matter because their hearts will not be in the right place the spirit that pops out it’s not really a spirit… it has physical weight and it will get trapped down below… it will be alive forever Wideawake freaking out and it is painful. It feels like you have bones that are being squeezed…. That’s why the Bible describes it as a place of torment….. how would people know this? It’s because people have witnessed it. They’ve also seen people like Jesus alive after he was killed…… it is true….. and there is no fear and living under God. It is the complete opposite of fear it is Security it is beauty it is freedom from sin., from guilt from shame from wickedness…. It’s protection from evil….. and it’s eternal life….. there’s no such thing as luck…. There’s only God., heaven, or hell in the end. Everybody dies, so there’s no such thing as luck. Everything here is worthless. It goes away eventually.. eternal life is not worthless. That is something nobody should gamble with.
I’m sorry that your existence is one of fear. Good luck. You still address nothing of what I’ve said
Seems like you’re the one with the assessment problem. I don’t have any fear because I fear God in heaven in hell which actually gives me great joy and love, knowing that I’m going to a beautiful place when I die. I would only be in fear if I was breaking God’s commandments if I was doing sexually immoral things using foul language stealing lying, hating somebody being resentful. I don’t have any of these things in my life, so I live completely free of any fear at all. The fear of God is something we need to have so we can have no fear of anything else in life…. You don’t walk around afraid., just like I feared doing wrong against my parents so I did well in school. When I used foul language in front of my sister, my father made me eat a piece of soap.. I saw how angry he was and that scared me, that kind of fear is good so you do right by your parents and you end up to be a good kid it’s the same with God. Your assessment is warped. And I don’t fear anything. I don’t fear Covid. I don’t fear climate change. I don’t fear miss gender Ing somebody like these insane people that are coming out of schools today with every kind of fear on earth except for the fear of God. And that’s why we have the worst society in history with the stupidest people the most ignorant, the most uneducated because there is no education anymore and there’s no biblical principles being taught in the schools. Get it right dude….. you’re way off
Also, if you just look at history, look at every nation I didn’t believe in Jesus Christ and the god of Judea. Every single nation failed. And that’s what it says what happened in the scripture. Look at every nation that came against Israel he said they would be destroyed and never come back as power. That happened to every single nation that came against Israel. It says there any nation that blesses Israel will become blessed. The United States. We became the biggest super power in less than 200 years after being in debt. With the smallest army on earth. How come India with billions of people didn’t do that? How come the Chinese didn’t do that with billions of people? How about Germany? They were the world’s greatest country with the greatest economy, the highest technology in 1930.. they went against Israel. They got destroyed and never came back as a power. How about Rome? How about Egypt? Asyria? Persia? Those last two didn’t even last with their names their names got destroyed…… you can’t find one nation in the history of the world that the Bible was not correct about. Like there is no proof on your side at all. And it said I the Israelites after being destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans., would be scattered around the world persecuted, punished, but then they would come into their own state, and it would be called Israel named after Jacob, who was named Israel. That’s exactly what happened. And every nation that comes against them will lose. It says that for over 4000 years. And in 4000 years, there’s not one instance where this is wrong. Not to mention all the witnessing of God’s blessings God’s miracles. Even George Washington wrote extensively that it was Jesus Christ that won the war. They did not teach us that in school, but now you can read all his papers. Even Ben Franklin, all of them believed in God of the Bible. That’s why they formed our country on biblical principles. It is that reason why George Washington is on the dollar bill Ben Franklin is on the hundred, the most powerful bill in the world, and the most famous Christian, who believed in Jesus, on that dollar. Why isn’t it some other religious figure? Why not somebody from another country? Because God says in the Bible, his name will be known above all…. Nobody will conquer these things. Nobody will ever prove it wrong because it’s undeniable. Who are the biggest iconic names in the world for music? Elvis Presley, he believed in Jesus Christ. Johnny Cash. He gave his life to Jesus Christ before he died, and now they have a statue of him in front of the capital holding a Bible. They just put that up last year. The only rock ‘n’ roll person in our nations capital with a statue. How about bob Marley? He gave his life to Jesus Christ, even changed his name to a Hebrew name., he song about Zion…. He’s bigger than life. The Grateful Dead, the biggest musical act in the world right now., with the biggest number of fans ever assembled. In 1977 almost a half 1 million people were at Englishtown New Jersey. They say it was a quarter of 1 million but we saw it. There was way more showing up for the Grateful Dead without a hit single without a hit album….. it’s because they put almost 4000 lines of scripture in their music, Robert Hunter and Jerry Garcia believed in God, Robert Hunter, wanted to make the band a religious band. That’s why they rose higher than any other musical group…. God will always have his name rise above everything else. And it says it in the Old Testament and the new….. I could list thousands of things like this… and on your side with the nonbeliever, there’s like nothing… The only thing on your side is proof that people who live their own way outside of biblical principles from God., they get wiped out they get sexualized they die earlier, their names are not known… they live in nations of poverty, destitution, pestilence disease like India, Istanbul Turkey, Egypt, where people worship cats and other countries were they worship animals instead of God. Or they have false gods like Buddha Krishna. The Chinese Chi., the feminine CHI in Chinese medicine has wiped out billions of people… they do not prosper…. Only the United States, by using the Bible and believing in God, almost 95% of the country believed in God 200 years ago…. Did we become a super power… with more families owning property than any other nation on earth per capita, with the longest lifespan’s, with the most famous people. And who do you think one more Nobel prizes than anybody on earth? Jews…. Israelites…. They have won more nobels then anyone on earth… it’s because God says his name will be above all for prosperity, for the biggest of people, the greatest of people…. The biggest sports figures., Christians, the biggest musical figures Christians, the greatest president of any nation, Christians, or people who support them…. Like Donald Trump…. He may not be a believer… but he supports the church. He supports biblical principles…. And he has become the biggest phenomenon in political history, the most famous person in the world.. that can’t be denied. And would you believe? There’s nobody….. a bunch of philosophers and gurus that nobody celebrates nobody cares about, and they have no power. The word of God has more power than anything ever in the history of the world. And with that proof….. only a fool would risk going to hell, and instead embrace sexuality, divorce, abortions, using the F word, doing whatever they want look like pornography, having sex with whomever….. those are fools…. Because they are risking damnation for eternity, and risking it for nothing because everybody dies on this earth. So all those pleasures are worthless. The proof is in everything I said.. the other side has no proof, it is fake belief on the other side, no belief, foolishness, stupidity, and that really is evil and wicked at its core, because it causes every kind of evil. People who don’t believe will do almost anything they will break the promises. They are liars… they almost lie every single day.. because they don’t believe in consequence, or they believe in karma…. Just like the Hindu…. Look what happened to the Hindus they are still living in poverty as a society for thousands of years. More babies die before the age of five years old in Bangladesh…. I wonder why Bangladesh has never come out of poverty in thousands of years? It’s because they don’t believe in Jesus Christ as a nation….. there’s no god with those people they worship cows they believe animals have spirits. The Bible says if people believe that they will perish, they will starve they will have all kinds of horrors….. show me the one nation that ever prospered without biblical principles from our Bible…… there isn’t one….. not one. Only authoritarian regimes with evil rulers, Mao, Hitler, Vladimir Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Chavez, Castro, I could give you a long list…. And everyone of those countries has never come back….. people live in poverty in those countries compared to the United States…. The most famous most powerful people in the world don’t come from those countries they come from the United States and Israel, with all the scientific awards of the world. Israel is the smallest state, and they make drinking water out of ocean water, their land is green. Look at the surrounding countries, Iran, Jordan Egypt, most of Africa….. dirt, deserts, no green, war-torn, destitution in poverty. Israel is the most thriving, most green, most prosperous with the strongest army on the planet per capita….. the proof is beyond a doubt. On your side, it is the desert there’s nothing there… how come the Egyptians can’t give their people clean, drinking water from ocean water? Why can’t Iran? Why do people in Gaza suffer since the 1950s? Israel tried to give them land., but the people who voted voted for people who hate the Bible they believe in jihad they believe in Allah…. Look what happened to them…. There isn’t one group of people in the whole world in the history of the world, whoever prospered from any other God, except for Jesus the god from the old testament.. the same one…. And there is so much more scientific fact., so much historical fact, it is beyond comprehension that anybody would ever deny, and only a fool would not believe. That’s why Pascal was a wise man….. you don’t have to believe in God to see that the people who do our way above anyone on the planet, since the world began….. it is such a stark difference, because God wants us to see the truth. I would do a lot more research and a lot more studying if I was you….. because the truth is when you die you’re going to pop out of your body. It will be too late for you if you are in your sin of not believing….. not being forgiven for every sin every lie, if you’re not forgiven by God for those things by asking….. you will end up in that place down below. There’s no such thing as a good person without God… people who feed the homeless they try not to lie they don’t cheat
I don’t see God as an institution, the word of God is just truth of life, it is man’s stupidity that creates these problems like the church today the synagogue the mosque these have been institutionalized and poisoned the actual meanings of what people believe as the word itself as it is written actually warns us of man’s ignorance and sinful ways….that’s why we are even having this conversations and millions are getting ready to celebrate sexuality as a national holiday in June…nothing more radical than that which is the polar opposite the antithesis to everything we need to have a healthy society free from radical ideas….everything in the Bible is against that….fear of God is where real wisdom comes from…and like I said I saw these things myself…witnessed death and life outside the body…I guess that could be considered radical to those who believe there’s nothing but this life to live. Men will come up with all kinds of things until they are shown something that proves what lies ahead after the body dies….others have see it..that’s how we got the scriptures….
Bud, nothing you say makes this being real and if he was real, I certainly wouldn’t choose to worship it. If I had the power to stop a child from being raped and chose to allow it, I would understandably be considered an evil monster, yet your god ignores the pain and suffering every day that HE created and somehow is deserving of worship. Not buying it
And comparing garlic around the neck? That makes no sense….. because vampires and those kinds of stories don’t make any sense, they have no verification, and no proof there is no prophecy that ever came true…. Nobody has ever seen people with bite marks in their necks….. and other things from movies that really don’t exist…. Not like the things of God…. Those can be seen every day….. there’s actually mathematical scientific historical geological fact that can be proven, and it’s hundreds of millions and billions of people, including the nations like India, China, Russia, Ukraine, Egypt, Rome, Asyria, Persia, the nations that got wiped out, the things that God said what happened and they happened exactly the way it says….. man is a fool…. The ideas you have our typical….. they are not found it on anything except your own idea. There is no proof of what you say….. zero there’s no man controlling any man with fear…. The fear of hell….. that doesn’t control people, that stops people from being stupid. My fear of going to hell prevents me from being stupid., they prevent me from getting diseases, prevents me from doing drugs, being drunk, using the F word, if you’re calling that wrong? Hahaha that’s not being controlled that’s being wise. I have wisdom where every choice I make is a wise choice….. the book doesn’t control me. It is me lessons that are correct. When you teach a child not to do something that will harm the child, are you controlling the child? Are you using fear control? Of course…. When the child fears something like the father’s wrath., the fathers correction, the child learns right from wrong. Without scolding a child, without putting the fear in the child to not do something wrong, the child will grow up and be rotten. When a child is not corrected, the child becomes unruly and stupid and hurt other people and him or herself….. just like the word of God if it is not followed, people will be stupid and they will hurt themselves. They will use foul language they will lie they will cheat. They will do what they feel like doing. That’s the truth. I would hate to have those thoughts that I used to have like you do….. I got rid of that stuff along with a lot bad behavior…. Because I fear the place down below that I saw in 1998.. if you don’t believe that’s where you’re going to end up….. I hope you don’t make that choice too much longer because you never know how much time you have left
Don’t take the risk. You’re gambling with the possible chance of damnation under the ground. Someone like me is not gambling at all. Not to mention my speech is better I don’t have any kind of immoral stuff in my life…. There’s never any resentment there’s no anger I do not lie or cheat. I don’t use the F word I have no sex outside of marriage… I do everything it says to do, because I would not gamble with something unknown after death…. Though I do know these things personally., most people do not know them, so they cannot know for sure. Why would anyone gamble with that? If you see the suffering on this earth…. There is eternal suffering afterwards for people who are sinning against God….. it is a horrific place down under…. I saw it myself, and I was taken up…. That’s why I have somebody with the biggest platform recording my story. Jessica Reed Kraus…. And she’s not a believer…. But she is listening and so are hundreds of millions of people who have heard me already….. and I have never been on social media in my life… when I was ready with my voice, I asked God to send somebody with a platform. 24 hours later, Jessica Reed Kraus showed up at UCLA last spring, and she just happen to be sitting in her car listening to me yelling at somebody with a dog…. She recorded me.. I have a list of things that God did for me exactly like this…. Within 24 hours delivered exactly what I asked for. The witnesses and the things he delivered were absolutely impossible. The things that I’ve witnessed were the impossible happening over and over., in order to have this testament, that would be undeniable. Hopefully you will hear more…. how many people believe exactly what I’m telling you, and why…. And how the proof is all on my side it is all on the side of the Bible…… and there is zero proof of your not believing…. Like zero….. that makes no sense. And it is a horrific mistake if you’re wrong.
That’s called Paschal’s wager. I am not afraid of a fantasy world created by man to control other men, anymore than I’m afraid that not hanging garlic over my door will protect me from vampires. It’s sad that during such a short life people need to fear this supposed all loving god and worship him daily in order to attain this magical world. Question- I consider myself a good person. Good husband, good father, grandfather, etc. yet according to you, I will suffer eternal damnation if I don’t worship this narcissistic being. On the other hand , if someone is a serial killer, child molester and asks for god’s forgiveness on his death bed, he’ll get a free pass to the pearly gates. It’s laughably sick and twisted to believe this garbage
What man controls another man? Who am I being controlled by? I believe that lying is bad cheating is bad I saw that sex outside of marriage destroys peoples lives causes heartbreak diseases, drug addiction suicide… I saw that sexual education and pornography destroy peoples lives… the sin that I gave up, how am I being controlled by hating those things? By reading something in the books and seeing for my own eyes, how stupid society is, and how stupid people are.? no man controls what I think in fact, I stopped thinking the way I used to think like you do… I used to have the same idea you do… I realized what a fool I was, and how I was acting like all the other people in the country and around the world who are allowing this world to go down the tubes. Choosing pleasure that does not last., denying what is true in front of my own eyes. Looking at legal divorce. Abortion. Pornography….. and who’s being controlled? Everything else that is gross disgusting destructive, and does not profit., those things control man, like money…. And it is mankind and the stupid thinking of men that they have no control…. There is no Bible that controls people. There is no man who controls another man with fear….. I fear God’s wrath because I’ve seen it with my own eyes. There is no man to fear on this earth…. And there has never been one man who has ever controlled anybody….. people do what they want…. Show me the population of people who are controlled.? I’ll show you a robots
You really don’t address anything I’ve said, but honestly , I wouldn’t expect it. A fictitious being controls you. You don’t do good because it’s the right thing to do, you do it out of fear and that is the definition of control. I do the best I can for my fellow man because it’s the right thing to do, not because I’ll be rewarded in an after life.
God did not create pain and suffering…. That was from man….. man does what he feels…. God does not stop that…. He allows the worst things to happen…. And because man is greedy and dishonest, the worst the crisis on this planet, the more people will come to God. More people turn to God in suffering then they do when they have tons of money and they are comfortable and happy. In fact, most people that are super happy and wealthy will never be with God. And God does not care about the suffering down here because there is life after this. This is where you missed the entire point. You think this earth and suffering down here is something to care about. Whether a baby dies, or the baby grows up and dies when it’s 90 years old, it is no different. If there is eternal life….. that’s forever which means it makes this life ridiculously worthless. Somebody’s pain and suffering is worthless. God made the Earth and the moon and the sun and everything in the world., he also made thousands of other worlds, it’s probably where we have those UFOs. They are human beings that did not sin against him… they live in worlds where there is no cancer no murder, no war… they didn’t make the mistakes that we did…. People would love to argue these points because they don’t want to believe in anything but their own ideas. When a person realizes they are not smart enough to even fathom how this world works and what we actually are as humans, that’s the beginning of getting the wisdom that they need to understand what is Worthwild and what is worthless. That whole idea of suffering that God would not allow suffering.? That is a typical view of somebody who uses their own intellect to try to figure things out. The suffering never lasts. All suffering ends…. Everybody who was alive 300 years ago is no longer here. So what difference does it make when they died or how they died? The wisdom of God comes from the knowledge that there is something after this life. This life is a vapor. It is over quickly…. Pain and suffering is over quickly…. All of that is worthless. If you don’t believe there is life after this, that is your gamble, you will take., and you can have all those ideas about suffering and what God should do, or could do, or wouldn’t do. When the reality is, it’s already made the way it’s made. The body dies, and something pops out, and it can go back to where it was created. It will live forever without any disease or anything no suffering. So if somebody suffers down here, once they die, it will all be over and they live forever. Somewhere else that is much better. And if somebody doesn’t believe this can happen? Then, how is the Earth spinning around, going around the sun, thousands of miles an hour? How is it that we create things and no other animals evolve like we do? How is it that the sun and the solar system move around thousands of miles an hour in a galaxy? The Milky Way.? How is it that there are other stars and galaxies out there with black holes in all those things? How did they get there? If somebody doesn’t believe that is a stupid gamble….. the worst most foolish gamble a person could ever make is to think that the Bible couldn’t be real and the directions it gives couldn’t be correct. I’ve never met a human being that is smarter or more intelligent than the old and New Testament, combined as history and truth of mankind. Not one academic from Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Oxford, all the professors PHDS’s every scientist that ever was… morons, except for the ones that really understood the word, and believed…. They had true wisdom….. I would not risk it if I was you. You cannot separate the fact that everyone dies….. and suffering is a fact…. If you want to point, fingers at God, like he wouldn’t do this, or wouldn’t do that…. You’re making up your own ideas from your own thoughts your own head….. and that just doesn’t do anything but separate you from truth. Some people like me have actually seen the other side. It is absolutely more possible that something pops out of your body when you die, and you have a chance to go back to where you were created. There’s actually more proof that god did make something inside the body during the pregnancy where he put a part of him that is actually who you are, you are related to that God, more than your own parents. And that’s where all your ideas about suffering on earth are meaningless. They are not founded on anything but thought and emotion. It even says peoples emotions are worthless. And that is a fact. And again I’ve seen it myself in 1998. It wasn’t until six years ago when I started studying the scripture from genesis to revelation….. that I realized who I saw in the clouds, what I saw down below, that is all spelled out clearly in the Bibles….. and I am no fool…. I’d never take the risk of not believing this now. Because if I’m wrong? I just gave up everything sinful…… but if you’re wrong? Not only did you give up the chance to be alive forever in a perfect world, you will be tracked down below… something will wrap around you and take you down and you will be trapped. How’s that for possible reality? Because it is possible….. you can’t know for sure… so you are the one gambling… you have to rely on your own intellect? Do you think you’re absolutely correct?? you’re gambling. I am not taking any gamble. It does say only a fool would not believe. I wouldn’t take that chance, no matter how much suffering no matter what people say…. Because people are severely stupid on this planet…. And they get stupider every decade…. That’s why we have stupid parades stupid sexuality, stupid diseases, stupid war, stupid stupid stupid. I highly suggest you do some serious research and studying about the scripture since it is the most studied book on earth…. And get rid of your own ideas and start opening your eyes….. God wants you back with him. He wants everyone back with him., because they are all going down underneath the ground…. So he does not care about the pain and suffering down here as much as he cares about afterwards….. he made the Earth the way it is from day one… it’s not going to change. Also, the prophecies have all come true every single one over 3000 of them….. that’s undeniable. Including the prophecy of Israel….. and they will be attacked again because of their sin against God….. it’s all true. It is man’s fault for the cancer and the suffering it is man’s fault, we could have been perfect…. We could have had no suffering…. But stupidity and sin was chosen over God…. Just like you are choosing your own thoughts over what is obviously a better choice
No. I had no clue they would both fail. I’m old now, but I gave my marriage to the father of my five children my all, for 16 years, before I fled it in fear for my life. I had always thought everything was my fault because he, and everyone else, told me so, and I believed them because I did not know any better. I thought all marriages were work, so this was normal…no…Marriage can be hard, but it should not devour you. He treated me better than anyone ever had—until I became pregnant with our first child. Then I was shocked with what darkness had been hiding in him. That was his anchor point, and I had two miscarriages, and a stroke, alone, and kept secret—because if he knew I needed help, my life would get much worse.
For my second marriage of 10 years, I thought I knew what went wrong the first time around. But I was mistaken. I gave that my all, too. That was when I learned what really went wrong with the first one.
Forgive yourself for what you didn’t know, before you learned it.
“Love” is quite broad a term, in the English language, so people don’t know whether or not they have it. Narcissistic and abusive personalities mistake the strong desire *to possess* for love, because the feeling is so intense to them; compounding the matter, those who have never experienced love before mistake “being desired”, and the effort a predator will go to for their prize, for love. It can be a perfect storm.
Humility is a better indicator for a successful marriage—and since marriage is a two-way covenant, one person cannot bear the humility for both. If only one bears it, then it is not marriage, but servitude. Throw in trauma bonding, early childhood conditioning to people-pleasing, and gaslighting, and people can be trapped in a lifetime of servitude. That is a serious matter, in which beautiful souls can fade away just trying to survive.
My sister married an abusive jerk. The divorce was awful because he tried to financially ruin her. She left with nothing. She managed to double her income, buy a house, and make it. So what did she do? Marry an alcoholic. I’m so mad at her. She got upset at me because I refused to congratulate her. But after helping her leave the first d-bag, rebuild her life, and support a healthy life—I can’t be happy about it. They say you keep meeting the same people until you learn whatever lesson you need to learn. I suppose she hasn’t learned it yet.
I know how that goes and how incredibly frustrating it is watching someone you care about make the same mistake. Unfortunately we can’t force people to learn the obvious lessons (ha, although I wonder what obvious lessons people around me wished I would learn).
True. We all need to learn lessons. I think some lessons are more life altering than others.
Don’t blame yourself. There was a person who loved an unlovable woman. Check the Book of Hosea. One can choose to love as our Lord Jesus Christ has loved and expected nothing in return. There is nothing wrong with that.
So tough 😣
Wise words. 👌
Wow. Your story is my story
I’m sorry. And more so, I’m really glad you are still here with us.
I wish you had just TOLD people who love you. This is the kind of story that illuminates how important it is to open up and let people help you in times of need
At the time I wanted things to work...and if I opened up people would never look at her the same. I didn't want that.
There weren't many great options.
I get it actually…makes sense, very relatable
Grayson points to a very, very common trapping of males here, where it relates to protection (of her and his choice in her) and not wanting to be seen as that guy who balked at the alter or dumped her (loser/failure) - even though every cell in his body was saying, “do not do this”.
Of course, in hindsight we men see it and usually have the life experience to know we would make different choices, were we to face the same situation now.
This mental and emotional trap (self-inflicted) happens more times for men, than people know.
The way I see it, you were protecting her. While you should have been protecting yourself. But that's the hard part, isn't it?
That really was part of it. Through it all I so desperately wanted things to work, and the only way that would be possible was if nobody else knew. It was kind of a double-whammy for my mental state. Live and learn I suppose.
Sounds extremely codependent!
I really get it. My first marriage I told my maid of honour that I really shouldn’t be getting married. She just told me it was nerves. I’d been feeling this way for a while and she was the only person I told. I just went with it as people had come half way across the world for our big day. I was 21 years old. My marriage ended 6 years later.
It’s such a tricky situation. Because that first wedding is something we can’t compare anything to, so we don’t know how we’re supposed to feel. Unfortunately, a gut feeling and nerves are so often confused for one another.
Ah, the taking responsibility for how others view her. i can relate to that and also know it’s major BS. It’s far more respectful to let each person be responsible for how they are viewed.
You're right when you say we know inside. In your case you had a text read 2 weeks prior
In my case it was just a feeling but it was right.
I've since re married and indeed, this second time the feeling was much different. Actually no feeling at all: just peace and enjoyment in her company.(We're happily married for several years now)
I was a divorce lawyer for 29 years. I can tell you many people who divorce knew when they walked up that aisle that they shouldn’t be getting married to that person. For most, the thought of stopping the wedding seems too overwhelming because of the costs of wedding already incurred, the idea they will be disappointing their family and friends and they are embarrassed and confused about marrying a person they know in their heart was not right for them.
That looming feeling of failure absolutely is undeniable.
Ugh - sad to hear that this is a somewhat common occurrence. Glad I’ve never been in the situation, but perhaps it would be good to let people know that I might have some influence over that it is ok to call things off if needed.
That takes some writing. Hits a nerve. You've clearly been through the refining process, and you're stronger for it. That's hard, man. Hope you have plenty of friends around you who believe in you and build you up J
At the time I did. Though admittedly I often separated myself from people. Struggled being around close friends because I hated feeling pity. That led to a whole slew of other issues. Thankfully all of that is long enough in the past.
If you have children with her, look for everything to go to hell in a hurry. No more sex, or greatly reduced sex. She may come to resent you, too.
I don't think you really read this, did you? If you did, maybe go back and try again.
welcome to the real world of women inspired by narcissistic feminism.
There are nearly 9 million worlds being experienced today, and I want no part in yours
LOL men everywhere are avoiding man-hating feminists like you.
Nowhere in this piece did Mr. Ferguson blame anyone, not even his fiancée! Reminds me of my own story, married him at 19 (duh!), stayed married 5 years (again duh!). Divorced for 4 years and remarried him at 28 (WTH was I thinking?), but the night before our wedding, he told me that he had been fired! Now a big reason that we divorced to begun with was he wouldn’t work! He was reliving his glory days from high school and didn’t feel the need to work, he had me! But even though he was honest about losing his job, I thought, he’ll another one. NOT! Even though God gave me big signs like “BRIDGE OUT”, “TURN AROUND, “DETOUR AHEAD”, I kept driving! Four years later, we divorced , I was 32, he was 33 and he married an 18 year old and promptly had 3 children!
But the wonderful thing is I met and married a wonderful man, had a fantastic son and now a grandchild! We’ve been married 37 years! I’d say that I finally got it right!
So Greyson, hang in there if you’re still single! You’ll get it right too!
I’m sorry for all these negative comments and want to say I totally understand how you could have convinced yourself to believe what you wished was true rather than facing the cold hard facts.
My knee-jerk response to being proposed to in public was “No-no-no-no-no! Get up! Get up!” And when he refused to get up until I “answered” (even though I had), I said “OK, yes… just please get up!”
We were engaged 3 years. I kept putting off the planning… broke off the relationship once for a week, but his threats of suicide and promise to change brought me back. I even booked a venue, but still couldn’t bring myself to plan the rest. I had a dream that I was at the altar and my mom whispered to me “You know, it’s not too late to turn back.”
I knew.
Finally, I left at daybreak after a typical night of his drunken and emotionally abusive tirades turned physical. I felt like I’d come within an inch of my life and was finally faced with the truth. I couldn’t deny it after that.
I could have prevented so much suffering if I’d come to the conclusion sooner, sure. But I learned the lesson the way I needed to, to make sure it stuck. I have nothing but compassion for the version of myself that didn’t listen. I hope you have it for yourself too.
My husband felt this with his daughter’s mom. He described it as God yelling in his ear not to marry her. He continued forward, and it was the most hellish 18 years. Thank you for sharing this. Great writing. ✍️
By the time I listened to the voice whispering “clarity” into my ear, I’d been in the marriage nearly 38 years! Lol! #slowlearner
Sometimes it’s not being a slow learner but not wanting to give up. I get it.
Or sometimes not knowing it’s as bad as it is. I just assumed marriage was supposed to be mostly hard work and little satisfaction. I didn’t know it could have been rich and deep and fulfilling with the right person.
I didn’t either!! I thought, mistakenly, that marriage was supposed to be “hard.”
No, being married to the right person for you isn’t hard. Love is a choice, but it’s an easy one when it’s the right marriage. 🥰 I learned this when I got married to my forever sweetheart in 2022. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good for you, Lindsay! 💗 I haven’t tried again, and probably won’t. I keep discovering more of myself that had been buried under the thumb of a narcissist- and I’m enjoying this journey on my own.
Completely understandable!! I’m happy that you are out from underneath the narcissist’s thumb. Enjoy your one, wild, precious life 🙏
For sure. I thought somehow it was all up to me to make it work. It wasn’t.
It takes TWO people to make a marriage work, not one. Took me a long time to figure that out too (with my first marriage).
This is great writing
I could have written the same story - twice. However, I would have mixed in more self-loathing and alcohol. Thanks for opening up. I thought I was the only one who knew that my marriages were doomed to fail on my wedding day.
Oh, the self loathing and alcohol (among other things) would come later.
I am 61 and I’ve never been married. Happily never married!
My freedom is too important and vital to me.
Reading your experience, I was with you! What pain…
I like being married a lot. But I can see how it could be quite bad in other situations!
My first husband and I drove away from the reception and then he abruptly pulled over at a scenic overlook (we were in the blue ridge mountains) and we stared at the sunset before he spoke and said, “We fucked up, didn’t we?” and I nodded. We were super young- 20 & 21- and highly pressured by both our parents to not “embarrass them” and their lengthy guest lists when both of us expressed hesitation. So we wed anyway. The separation came only two years later. People can only be forced into something for so long.
Gosh Grayson, thank you for sharing. I felt your raw emotion throughout this piece in spades. Sending a gentle hug over the ether for what you’ve been through.
You reminded me of my wedding day; I don’t think I knew, that day, that my marriage was the wrong decision for me. But I probably knew when he proposed years earlier, and I felt light-headed. And I probably knew the night before the wedding, when I couldn’t sleep a wink. I put it down to jitters, like you, but on reflection it was likely my intuition screaming to be heard that this wasn’t the right way to be in a relationship with this very kind, loving man who is completely different to me. We made it work for a while, and we were definitely happy, but the truth emerges in the end, I think.
I applaud your courage in sharing your story. I’m grateful for it. Certainly my goal is to be a truth-teller, like you. I will subscribe to your posts with interest 🙏🏻
Our emotions sure are difficult to read…at least in these one-off events. I know I just kind of convinced myself everything was normal and as it should be. I guess all we can do is to try and learn from it (ha, though these are lessons I’d rather not have to learn)..
Yep, I can totally relate & beat myself up almost DAILY for marrying someone who I knew was wrong but thought somehow it could work & tried to make it work for 27 long years - even had kids (2) together after 13 years mid-way …he divorced us & probably best thing; yet, my kids took it hard especially when he started to date girls their age. Today he is alone & same miserable person & the kids & I just try to avoid talking about him because he never supports or speaks to us. Yes, go with your gut & don’t compromise or believe things can just work out. Lastly, know that hurting people- HURT PEOPLE.
How long did you stay married? Did you finally have to confront her with what you knew?
Oh, I’ll get into all of this on future posts. Ha, don’t worry, I won’t leave you hanging.
I really appreciated your honesty and the brutal realization you came to that you didn't feel you could change what you'd set in motion.
Great writing.